Federal Income Tax Is Illegal. When will we do something about it?

Question

Our Federal Income Tax is an illegal tax and it is illegal for the IRS to seize anything of it's citizens for not paying or filing YOUR income taxes. What do you think, the proof is in the eyes of the seeker.....

Federal Reserve / IRS Fraud
http://www.ylana.com/tax7-700.htm

There is no law that requires most Americans to "file a tax return, pay the federal income tax or have the tax withheld from their earnings
http://www.kqed.org/topics/news/perspectives/youdecide/pop/incometax/1no.html

The Income Tax is Illegal
http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=ytff1-msgff&p=illegal%20income%20tax&ei=UTF-8

Congress Will Hold Hearing: Is Income Tax Legitimate?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/23/164320.shtml


Plenty of proof in the links if you take the time to read. The rest is up to YOU...

NO to the NWO...

history_schmistory
First off I see you have NOT done your homework. Please provide me PROOF that I or ANYONE for that matter HAS to pay INCOME taxes. It was never correctly ratified by the states and that makes it an illegal tax on the people. Pull the wool from your eyes.
Also:
Our government is controlled by very powerful bankers who developed freemasonery that CAN be proven with hundreds of facts and THEY do not have alien technology but advanced technology due to their powerful positions and untouched riches. They create the money, their foundation is called the Federal Reserve that prints our money and loans it to OUR government while charging unGodly amounts of interest that WE citizens repay through our ILLEGAL Taxation on INCOME. Remember Congress has the right to print money TAX FREE. Why do they need the Federal Reserve. We have it because the elite world bankers mandates we have it.
http://chaoticfreedoms.blogspot.com/2007/08/high-office-of-president-has-been-used.html

NGC6205:

Name me one court that is NOT biased for government related actions. Name me ONE judge that WOULD stand against this tyranny of illegal taxation. You make a good case however your court postings are governmentally tied. If a judge ruled rightly and for the truth that our income tax is illegal then would that not make him/her wanted by our government. For a judge to even think of overstepping the government would be to end his/her own career and possibly life. For a judge to do this would mean that citizens then could and would stop this illegal taxation and the government could no longer repay it's interest initiated debt to the Federal Reserve which by the way is a scam as well. We all know this because our government (Congress) has the RIGHT to print all our money INTEREST FREE but does not because the world bankers (A/K/A Federal Reserve) will not allow them. It is because of this tyranny we are in a 12 trillion dollar debt.

jdkilp:

The 16th amendment was NOT properly ratified. Even though all but 3 states adopted this amendment most of the states adopted amendments that were not completely the same as the original amendment. Thus making the amendment null. Therefore the 16th amendment was never COMPLETELY and LEGALLY ratified.

Answer 1

Thank you. I have told folks for years that it was never ratified by the States. Last year there was the only case I ever heard of that a Court agreed and dimissed the charges on a person that was dragged into Tax Court.

Answer 2

However, the Consititution does give the government the right to levy taxes. This was done in Amendment XVI. The original constitution didn't call for it, but remember that the Constitution allows for Amendments. Amendment XVI passed within the law. Here's the contents of that amendment ...

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Proposal and Ratification

The sixteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Sixty-first Congress on the 12th of July, 1909, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 25th of February, 1913, to have been ratified by 36 of the 48 States. The dates of ratification were: Alabama, August 10, 1909; Kentucky, February 8, 1910; South Carolina, February 19, 1910; Illinois, March 1, 1910; Mississippi, March 7, 1910; Oklahoma, March 10, 1910; Maryland, April 8, 1910; Georgia, August 3, 1910; Texas, August 16, 1910; Ohio, January 19, 1911; Idaho, January 20, 1911; Oregon, January 23, 1911; Washington, January 26, 1911; Montana, January 30, 1911; Indiana, January 30, 1911; California, January 31, 1911; Nevada, January 31, 1911; South Dakota, February 3, 1911; Nebraska, February 9, 1911; North Carolina, February 11, 1911; Colorado, February 15, 1911; North Dakota, February 17, 1911; Kansas, February 18, 1911; Michigan, February 23, 1911; Iowa, February 24, 1911; Missouri, March 16, 1911; Maine, March 31, 1911; Tennessee, April 7, 1911; Arkansas, April 22, 1911 (after having rejected it earlier); Wisconsin, May 26, 1911; New York, July 12, 1911; Arizona, April 6, 1912; Minnesota, June 11, 1912; Louisiana, June 28, 1912; West Virginia, January 31, 1913; New Mexico, February 3, 1913.

Ratification was completed on February 3, 1913.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Massachusetts, March 4, 1913; New Hampshire, March 7, 1913 (after having rejected it on March 2, 1911).

The amendment was rejected (and not subsequently ratified) by Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Utah.

Answer 3

You are delusional. I'm only answering so people will have the opportunity to read the real truth.

Let's start at the beginning. The 16th amendment was legally ratified. The theory that it wasn't is basically based upon a book by Bill Benson titled, "The Law that never was". In that book, Benson says he researched for a year. It took me all of five minutes to find that he misinterpreted the Tennessee Constitution as it was in 1909. Further discussions of all of Bill Benson's mistakes can be found at http://www.quatloos.com/bill_benson_debunked.htm

The courts said it best in U.S. v. Thomas, 788 F.2d 1250 (7th Cir. 1986), cert. den. 107 S.Ct. 187 (1986). "Although Thomas urges us to take the view of several state courts that only agreement on the literal text may make a legal document effective, the Supreme Court follows the “enrolled bill rule.” If a legislative document is authenticated in regular form by the appropriate officials, the court treats that document as properly adopted. Field v. Clark, 143 U.S. 649, 36 L.Ed. 294, 12 S.Ct. 495 (1892). The principle is equally applicable to constitutional amendments. See Leser v. Garnett, 258 U.S. 130, 66 L.Ed. 505, 42 S.Ct. 217 (1922), which treats as conclusive the declaration of the Secretary of State that the nineteenth amendment had been adopted...Secretary Knox declared that enough states had ratified the sixteenth amendment. The Secretary’ decision is not transparently defective. We need not decide when, if ever, such a decision may be reviewed in order to know that Secretary Knox’ decision is now beyond review."

There is a specific law concerning income taxes, it is USC Title 26. Title 26 is the prima facie law covering the Internal Revenue Act. The Internal Revenue Act and various changes through the years was passed by Congress and signed into law by a President.

Go ahead and believe the lies that Bob Schulz is promoting. Did you know that he has lost all of his cases? As of last week, he has been permanently enjoined from promoting his false tax theories. http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/schulz30.pdf
Also, he lost his "Right to Petition" suit, was denied on appeal, and was denied for his petition for rehearing en banc.

A bunch of tax protestor websites claiming the income tax illegal doesn't mean anything. Name ONE court case in the last 90 years that ever said the income tax was illegal. There hasn't been one. A few people have beaten criminal "willful failure to file" charges, but the government is practically unbeaten in civil charges. Besides an acquittal of criminal charges for "willful failure to file" charges does not prove there isn't a law concerning income taxes anymore than O.J. Simpson's acquittal proves there is no law against killing your ex-wife.

For an excellent debunking of practically all tax protestor arguments, go to http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

I know that you'll just claim it is all a government conspiracy. You are free to believe whatever you want. However, if you don't pay any taxes that may be due, be prepared to pay the penalty.

BTW, President Kennedy never made that quote on your blog. Lots of conspiracy theorists claim he made that quote at Columbia University in November of 1963. Only problem is, he didn't make a speech at Columbia University in November of 1963.

Edit: As I said, you just claim it all some great government conspiracy. Just goes to prove how deluded you are. BTW, your little tirade about the Federal Reserve also shows that you know absolutely nothing about economics except what a conspiracy theorist tells you. The Federal Reserve is setup under USC Title 12, Chapter 3. Read that law and if you understand it, you will realize that the conspiracy theories are wrong. The Federal Reserve is required BY LAW to rebate most of the interest it collects on the government debt that it holds. Also, the Federal Reserve only holds about $750 billion of the U.S. Government debt which is little over 8% of the $8.9 trillion debt. Another 44% of the U.S. government debt is held by THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. Yes, the government loans money to itself. Only about 48% of the total U.S. Government debt is held by the public.
http://www.fms.treas.gov/bulletin/index.html
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

Answer 4

Doesn't matter when the IRS gestapo will kill you to make their point. Best you can do is be like me and make as much as you can off the books and convert it as you can to cold/silver/platinum/diamonds/rubies

Answer 5

I think when enough people realize and demand answers; I remember watching the movie "America: Freedom to Fascism" and the stories of people who fought the IRS and won. Really I think if more people took the initiative to question and demand and make noise something could be done

If everyone keeps thinking that just a bunch of lunatic conspiracy theorists believe it then it may never take off and change may never come

Answer 6

Does the IRS know?

They seem awfully aggressive for an organization that has no legal standing.

Answer 7

That's an urban legend that has been debunked many times. Income tax is perfectly legal and legitimate, only idiots who think that the Freemasons are using alien technology to control the world through Bill Clinton believe insipid nutjob conspiracy bunk like that.

Answer 8

If you feel that strongly about it, then by all means don't file or pay. Then try using this same argument for your defense in court.

Answer 9

I afraid I am too afraid of the MAN coming to my door.

Answer 10

If I would not get into trouble I am all for it! LOL