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Does no one remember the feminist uproar following Newt Gingrich's sexist statements about women in combat?

Aren't the majority of politicians responsible for such legislaton, men?

Are you who blame feminists for this inequality aware of feminist opposition to it?

http://www.now.org/issues/military/policies/draft2.html

2007-08-12 12:13:16 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science Gender Studies

Considering the source above states that NOW, the largest feminist organization has opposed sexist selective service since 1980, why on earth do anti-feminists claim that feminists are sexist in this regard? seems the opposite is true.

2007-08-12 12:15:04 · update #1

hmm a thumbstalker with nothing to contribute huh?

2007-08-12 12:55:47 · update #2

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Even though feminists and non-feminists have fought for combat service and selective service in the courts for decades, the courts have refused to rule on women and the military questions put in front of them. The courts have always passed the buck to congress. Many changes that have occurred in American society regarding women's roles have been the result of law suits and later legislation. But the courts won't rule, and congress ignores the issue steadily, since many older Americans who are our representatives, and many of the older Americans who vote, are opposed to women being in the military.

With more conservative judges in the Supreme Court, the federal court of appeals and federal courts, as appointed by Bush, I only see more and more conservative decisions being made in the next decade, with women losing choices, not gaining them. So I don't see an avenue for feminists to make any progress.

I don't see congress giving a hoot about women's role in the military, either. They'll stay away from this issue like they do the era. The only reason US women are in more combat roles than ever before is because of some executive orders made by Bill Clinton, not changes made by the courts or congress. I don't know why, but I don't believe Bush is exactly a champion for women gaining more combat roles or being expected to register for selective service...maybe if a Democratic president wins the next election, we could finally make some progress again for women in the US military, but if a Republican wins, there will be no changes made for a long time to come.

2007-08-12 15:22:29 · answer #1 · answered by edith clarke 7 · 3 3

interior the present situation with globalization, particularly. women are stressful equivalent rights so in the event that they choose their equivalent rights they could desire to be required to affix for selective amenities with the aid of fact the present equipment is very sexist, regardless of the undeniable fact that I do have faith that interior the 21st century we could desire to consistently no longer be focusing on wars. it particularly is a sparkling century and wars should not be fought. we could desire to consistently be focusing extra on peacekeeping as a replace of peacemaking. Selective amenities could desire to now no longer be put in place and those days the protection stress isn't doing this variety of undesirable activity with volunteers for enrollment. i understand for specific if i grow to be talked approximately as up for the front lines i could be begging for mercy and hiding below my mattress yet regrettably all of us understand i might the two could desire to combat for my existence or get booted in another united states. this technique could desire to now no longer be put in place as from my attitude that's extremely discriminatory. america government could desire to evaluate forcing women to prepare besides or thoroughly shrink the Selective amenities act, yet all of us understand that if women have been compelled into selective amenities there could be a public outcry and specific sufficient there'll be a lot of protests and extensive flow communities attempting to abolish it. It does not look like the Act would be changed each time quickly as there are not any super flow communities available, that i'm conscious of.

2016-10-10 02:16:56 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I don't think women should be to blame for this.

Although I hope they don't reinstitute the draft, if they do, I believe women should be included in the draft. As Steve C. said, it works out well in Israel.

The Army, Navy, etc., if they drafted women, would place them in positions they are qualified for, just like they are doing now with women and men who enlist. They don't care what position you WANT to be in, they will put you in the position they NEED you to be in, given that you are qualified for that position.

2007-08-12 14:28:30 · answer #3 · answered by Rainbow 6 · 3 1

One of the reasons we don't want to return to a draft is to tackle this issue. I visited Israel, where they draft women equally, and it works out very equatable. if we do need to return to a draft, it won't be women's fault, it will be bad management of the War in Iraq. I believe most women and men would accept a draft if it meant fighting al Qaeda, rather than trying to save Iraq.

2007-08-12 12:35:02 · answer #4 · answered by Steve C 7 · 5 1

I've asked myself the same question. The thing is, women have always played a part in the military, codebreakers, technicians, engineers--many of the inventions mentioned in a question about "women inventors" were military-related. And some women have been in active combat over the years--since recorded history, there have been women pretending to be men in order to fight. As far as being forced to go to war, women have never been forced to go (only send). And the vast majority of military personnel in the US and Canada made the choice to go into active duty. Nobody should be forced to fight. It should be a choice available to both men and women.

2007-08-12 12:37:15 · answer #5 · answered by teeleecee 6 · 7 3

Good point, but then again, I've only blamed feminists.

You're correct in saying it's men's fault, so you're probably asking yourself why I would blame feminism. Because men made it so women couldn't get drafted to protect them [women]. Yep, men didn't want women to get killed so they didn't force them to fight. Oooh another example of the big bad patriarchy hatin' women! Of course, women were protected from dying but at the same time they weren't allowed to vote (while it was unfair, I explained the reasons and if you want, I can link to the explanation).

But now, women can vote, thanks to FIRST WAVE feminism. They helped correct an injustice against women, but what about those men set upon themselves to protect women?

2007-08-12 14:23:07 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Feminists have proven their power in many areas where men are now disadvantaged. Thanks to feminism demanding extra rights and less responsibility in so many areas, it is obvious that organized feminists do NOT want equality in this, and a few other areas.

To believe that feminism does not have any power and could not rectify this if wanted, one needs to look at some of the other loopy ideas that feminists have been able to codify into law: Abortion on demand (for women only, of course);
Results of divorce independent on which files; Custody at 85% to the mother; VAWA, even after proving to be a disaster, they were able to ramrod this through a second time and more.

Yes, there are more male politicians than women but claiming this has any bearing is tantamount to stating that men all vote against women, which the evidence proves is absolutely and unequivocally incorrect. If men voted against women, there would be no women's suffrage.

Why this is not a major plank in the feminist position is that it places responsibility on women, which feminism is dead-set against. The best one can expect is to hear a feminist talk the talk but when it comes to actually changing it, there is no interest. Some feminists will mouth the words that they are either against selective service for anyone or they may even claim to be in favor or actual equality in this regard; both are lies.

2007-08-12 13:01:39 · answer #7 · answered by Phil #3 5 · 3 9

As a guy I have to agree people who blame feminists for this don't make any sense at all. They should blame sexist men.

2007-08-12 12:38:53 · answer #8 · answered by Mike H 6 · 7 4

Who was responsible for not letting women vote ? Men you say ?

Who was responsible for not letting women drive ? Men you say ?

How did this change ? Suffragists/feminists etc ?

If you wanted to be required to be registered for the draft and fight like men you would give more than lip service. You would be uppity women about it and fight until it was so. But alas it has not changed. How convenient !

Instead you hide behind the female privilege and claim you would if you could but you can't so don't blame me.

NOW does not fight the issue they just spit in the wind about it. So what.

2007-08-12 13:06:27 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 8

They blame us for everything else . . . it doesn't matter. The facts aren't with them, so they call names.

2007-08-12 12:34:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 9 3

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