Many of you agree that the present immigration levels are unacceptable so what are you going to do about it?

Question

During our forum debates on the BNP many of you have expressed the view that you would not vote for them because of their hard line stance on giving the indiginous people a ''Right to exist'' your terms for that being Nazi, Racist and so on. Apart from disagreeing with the BNP many of you agree that immigration is in fact a major problem in this country. So tell me which of the mainstream parties is going to take immigration on board and eliviate our concerns on this issue? and do you think that New Labour have helped immigration control by raising the quota 50000 to 250000 a year?

Look everyone, this is a fair question,
why won't you answer it honestly. once you have the BNP are out of the way which one of the three mainstream parties is going to address the problems of immigration.
If you don't think they will then say so.
Were New Labour right to increase the immgration numbers. Should we just accept the present levels are ok?

Sunshine: I don't have to check my figures every news paper in the country printed the numbers at the time and Blunkett was on TV many times defending hiis action. Sunshine you must keep up, reading or listening to chanel 4 News occasionaly can educate you without effort. ATB Red

Sexy; You need to get the BNP policy straight. It has no policy on repatriating those already here apart from offering the incentives if they want to go. New Labour practice this with ilegals by giving them £3000 when they are returned home and of course pay for the expences i.e plane fair etc. The prblem with this is the £3000.00 is not a one off payment, so many of the
illegals just make there way back for another £3000.00. The BNP like UKIP are realists. Somthing has to be done but who do you vote for to do it? ]Hence my original question

Hi Doug------The figures are well documented and are were in every news paper from the Times to the Daily Mirror. The problem is the figures on quota's do not allow for iligals or those immigrants that entered this country over the last sixty years. iligals are coming in at an alarming rate, the goverment don't even know how many and to be honest don't care. My point here is; in a nutshell how do you differentiate being a Nazi from being concerned? Reverse racilists (those that put others before their own people) can not deal with that problem because if they say you have a human right to be concerned it means you have a human right to exist. A reverse Racist believes the Native Britain dose not and says as much, look at the answers given.

Thanks for your time Red

Budding Auther------Hi Bud, Look When you replace the Indiginous population with others you cannot expect anything else but concern, especialy when your own countrymen seem to accept the situation. If you live in area's where saturation point has been reached that concern becomes worse. May be you can aford to be apathetic regarding this issue. If you don't care why answer this question? but it is a bit worrying if you see 'ethnic cleansing' as a tollarance to be accepted.

ATB Red

YHL,-----------Perhaps the countries these people come from should do a bit more to make life better for their citizens and perhaps we should ask ourselves why our own people are not taking the menial Jobs. Could it be that the pay is pi?s poor? So we do what we rage against other countries for rolling in the cheap labour and fetch our poor to the level of the poor polish, Nigirean, ect I've got it! they become rich and your own poor become even poorer, What a great philosophy. I've got to admit your idea is great. You are the ultimate Reverse Racist (assuming you are native Brtitain of couse)

ATB Red

Answer 1

Large scale immigration is just one symptom of an illness known as 'New Labour'. They are about to complete their destruction of Britain by handing us over to a Federal EU. Under the auspices of the EU and its ridiculous 'Human Rights Act', they have removed the borders from around Britain and wilfully allowed, whilst pretending not to, unfettered mass movements of people into this country.

These are not the actions of a patriotic government toward the people that voted it into power. Indeed, we were promised a referendum on the EU Treaty/Constitution, and immigration has never appeared on any Manifesto. In other words they don't have the permission of the British people to do what they have/are doing. So, we are dealing with a left wing totalitarian regime, which has presented us with a so called, 'multicultural society', and has told us to 'get on with it'. Well, as it's unworkable, how can we?

As no Government may bind a successor, I believe that this Government is in breach of our Constitution, and is, therefore, acting 'ultra vires'. Much of this has been achieved incrementally and by stealth.

As, during the seventeenth century English Civil War, the population of Britain is being polarised as between on the one hand, Patriots, ie those that want to keep Britain as an independent Nation state, and, on the other, unpatriotic left wingers driven by ideology, traitors, I guess.

I appreciate that your question asks, "what are you going to do about it and which political party could achieve it"? I am positively depressed about the lack of credible answers to both questions. Many of the immigrants are already here, what do you do about that? And how do you legally stop Brown from handing us over to the EU? By the time that Brown is out of office it will be too late and party politics wont matter anyway, because Britain wont exist.

Let me add finally, that the nationality of some of the Royals is completely irrelevant and a 'red herring'. It is the institution of the Monarchy that's important, and it does play a significant role in our Constitution. Marriage between the various European Royal Houses was common at one time. As I say, 'red herring'.

The other famous 'red herring' referred to by at least one other respondent, is the attempt to equate past immigration with current day immigration. Most of the people who came to this country in the past were invaders, not migrants. That is, they were not invited. Even so, the last major invasion into Britain was carried out by the Normans in the eleventh century, and by today's standards, the numbers were minimal. But all this is irrelevant, because over the ensuing centuries the peoples of these islands slowly consolidated themselves into what we now know as 'modern day Britain'. So, between the eleventh century and the mid-twentieth century, there were no major invasions/immigrations.

We need to identify the problem, and expose the 'red herrings' presented by the 'left' before we can hope to arrive at a solution. The longer it goes unresolved, however, the more drastic the solution will have to be.

Answer 2

Too many violations being handed out at the moment, so I'll answer carefully. As an Island yes immigration can be a problem, however as our island is only 10 percent covered in housing then maybe we should try slowing down immigration and catch up with our housing needs etc. Whatever party got in would have to be politically correct and we all know that we could not vote for BNP if they was offering to stop immigration as that is not the way forward.

Answer 3

I can say that the problem I have is the immigrants that come over here and work without a green card is what I am against. I know that America is built on cultures from all around the world. The only True American is the Indians. I want an equal playing field. I do not mind bidding against an immigrant, I just want him or her to have to pay the same taxes I do, carry workman's comp, and have to carry the same insurances I do and put it on an equal playing field and lets go. By the way, where did you get those figures, I would like to look at that web site?

Answer 4

I think that the battle is already lost. Personally I do not particularly like living in a multi cultural society. Particularly when I am in a minority. I think also for me there is another dimension as I am gay and part of the Muslim community seem to becoming more and more extreme in there views and intolerance towards homsexuality, having said that I think the people to blame are our politicians and not the imigrant. I believe that there is a hidden agenda which is new world order, so to me this is all just part of their plan, so I do not belive it is the immigrants fault. If wealth had been more equally distributed then I am sure most of these people would prefer to be in there home lands. These People are often very poor and when they get to England they are handed wealth beyond there dreams ie free house, free car, free money, free health care, free education for their children of course thsy are going to want to come here.

I don't think it is any accident that there has been no mainstream party supporting tighter immigrations laws. Also have you noticed they start these new drives on clamping down on illegal immigrants then the press kicks up saying how awful the new laws are, a few sob stories etc wind up the mindless masses. The Government then drop the new tough policy and the News paper goes back to winding up English white people again, ( No doubt it is murdoch owned)with stories of bar bar black sheep and christmas decorations being band it is all divide and rule. I also think the way that the slave trade is protrayed is wrong it is a much more complex issue that what is being taught in schools and who was involved, I think again it is taught that way deliberatley wind people up =divide and rule. You only have to look at how white english people argue within our own groups for immigration and anti it. again = devide and rule. I think it is time we realise who the real ememy is.

Answer 5

there is not any longer a lot something could be carried out. Non ecu illegals can get forged ecu papers and declare citizenship that way. Pakistanis claiming to be Greek, Africans claiming Dutch or Belgian and so on, South individuals,claiming Spanish & Portuguese and so on. Then there is trafficking that's worthwhile and would't be stopped. there is approximately 2m illegals in London on my own. Labour merely gave up and ran far off from it. Cameron will in all threat do deals against it. the issue is merely to special to provide up.

Answer 6

There is a severe and dangerous UK population problem fuelled by denial and a half understanding of what "racism" is. The UK is in a population crisis this is scientific fact , see the link below.

I arrived from Paris yesterday on Eurostar, immigration officers were questioning 2 middle eastern guys. I heard one officer one saying: "so you are just on a visit, how long do you want to stay?. From the World's 6.700,000,000 population there must be 100s of millions wanting to con a way into this rich and wonderful country we have made for ourselves.

WE own this country not the charitable minded mass immigration supporters who think they have full ownership of the UK and can give it away because it makes them "feel nice".

What can be done? read the link below for a start and demand that your MP does something as a matter of urgency.

Answer 7

You are correct of course 'many of us think this that and the other'!
Also many more of us think immigration is here to stay, and some of us don't really care one way or the other!!
I also must admit that you have a knack of stringing a few words together and reaching an 'obvious' conclusion1
So did Hitler BTW!!
I'm not really interested where you got your figures or 'facts' from , we can all do anything with those to suit our needs.
I have lived and worked in very many multi cultural places in the world , it is here to stay in the UK learn to live with it.
Just a few more little words it is my belief and a lot more peoples belief that the BNP is in fact group of Nazis, we all know that , so why try and hide the fact come out loud really proclaim your true aims, don't hide behind all this BS, very few will believe you ever!!
Heil!!!

Answer 8

well, of course labour haven't helped matters. But then again, have they ever done anything right?

The major parties need pressure put on them to sort out the problem, and whilst people don't put any pressure on the government (who are too busy trying to get us to recycle and pay for rubbish etc. anyway), nothing is going to happen.

Perhaps instead of moaning about it, people should just do something about it.

Answer 9

we are going to do nothing .......as normal and we arent going to vote for any real party as non of the parties represent the majority of people in this country.

the b.n.p could be a decent respectable party but its so far out on the right wing the only votes they get and from protest votes againt the 3 mainstream parties who all want the same thing.

the tories would walk into office if they ditched that blair wannabe (who in their right ind would want to be the next tony blair) all the people of this country want is limited immagration like australia and the b.n.p or new labour dont offer that at all so until then, we have no party to vote for on the basis of immagration

Answer 10

maybe, if two or three English politicians with a bit of credibility got behind a party like UKIP, and all of us that sit on the fence thinking our votes will not change anything, actually got of our bums and voted, we might just have the start of a party that would put the English first, yes I meant to say English,
because although people like Blair and Brown talk about Britain, they mean Scotland they will be all right in there retirements with there Independent Scotland sod the rest of us, they wont have the league of nations living next door,
vote for someone that will look out for the Englishman if you want to save England
if your happy integrating in a multi cultured swop shop don't bother