So What Do You Say - 12?

Question

Without evil there will be no value for good.
And every human posses a evil side which is most of the time suppressed or unleashed.
If given chance or there would be no law and fear of God are we ready to do any evil thing.
Bad are those just got caught
Good are those just suppressed the Evil side of themselves.

Answer 1

Dear all,

When i saw this question , i was not able to hold, but answer.

NOTE : This is of prime importance and worth reading so please read it completely , though it is a bit long post.

There is nothing called Evil in existence, nor we have the capability to create one.

The so called 'Evil' is just a deteriorated goodness.

For example, when you have a pious person, among a bunch of people , he is good.

But the same pious person , if enters a new group where everyone is much more pious than him, than he is evil in that group.

But the question is, why does goodness deteriorate :

Goodness deteriorates because of material desires. The more material desire, the more it deteriorates, So its important to understand this relative nature.

Next, though what i want to say here, may off course be difficult to understand, as it is the truth i am putting it here.

Also , there is nothing called Goodness or Good. The so called goodness is nothing but the nature of Lord, Nature of hari.

As we all have been derived from him, And that is the original nature, We often build up deviation from that nature and That deviation is the so called "evil" and also we retain some of him qualities, without much deviation and it is what so called "goodness".

So, when a person is in constant engagement and starts missing Hari, he tries to be more and more like him, By his own sweet will, and He becomes more and more like Hari.

And when he finally become like hari, He merges into the supreme, This is one of the other way i can explain Enlightenment to you all.


See for more technical minds, I would suggest the explaination below :

Take a big marble, and Start squeezing it , but force, exerting pressure on it.

The marble starts to squeeze, and its density starts growing higher. And more and more density builds up. and similarly more and more small it becomes.

Now imagine it is just a mm3 size, from over 100 km3 and you squeeze further... waht happenns , the object would have developed gravity.. and it would be very high, and it will start absorbing matter ..... and as it absorbs matter, its gravity increases more, as the density also builds, and now imagine you squeeze it further.. it is almost reaching infinite density, and it is not allowing light to come from it, and absorbing light also ...

now consider you squeeze it further... and a 100 KM3 solid cube has become the size of an ant, and .. if you continue to do so, what will happen..

Finally it will become even smaller, and smaller and at last it becomes VOID. what happens when it becomes VOID. It does not occupy any amount of so called "space".. so no effect of time.

Or in more logical terms, it absorbs its own time, and time has no control over it, and its is no more subjected to Time decay.

So does this mean , void is infinite density ? i do not wish to explain further as it is not recommended without for minds not yet tuned, as it may be bewildering.

But all this is summarized by just the first manthra of IsAvAsya Upanishad.

Om PoorNamadha: poorNamidam
poorNAth poorNamuduchyathE I

poorNasya poorNamAdhAya
poorNamEvAvasishyathe II

The profound statement of the Visva VyApi
( VishNu ) is celebrated by this sAnthi paatam :

" That is Whole ; This is Whole ; from the Whole ,
the Whole becomes manifest . From the Whole , when
the Whole is negated , what remains is again
the Whole . "

The poorNathvam and the SampoorNathvam
of the Visvathomukhan is saluted here echoing the first
nAmam of Sri VishNu Sahasra Naamam .

The half of the first manthrA of this Upanishad
goes on to dwell more about the Lord and His
universe and how He pervades them after creating them :

Om IsAvAsyam-Idam Sarvam
Yath kimcha JagathyAm Jagath I

This portion of the manthram states that " All this ,
whatsoever moves in this Universe , including
the Universe itself , is pervaded or enveloped by
the Omnipresent Lord " . The root " Vis " to enter
informs the meaning of Visvam . His poorNathvam
is celebrated thus thru the first Naamam. The Purusha Sooktham portion , " sa bhoomim VISVATHO vruthvA " is another echo from this first nAmam .



This subject matter is of atmost importance ,and is capable of revealing the real nature of the so called nature and the material manifest.



Please read it completely, and for further understanding of this subject matter, one needs to meditate on this same,

OR

rather than doing all this, can just medidate on the Envolope sound OM or The one of the supreme Vibrations... like KrsNa , HaRi etc.



God bless all... .

-- deito
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Answer 2

Have you ever seen a major car crash, maybe a limb chewed off some poor fool in the zoo petting a monkey,
"AS the blood splattered I remember the girl saying,
'Help me, Their Eating My Blood
my blood mommy, my blood ....'
The monkeys fought over the piece for few minutes before being shot to death by guards

Its what you feel in these occasions that show how dark one mind works.
For example: most would be repulsed and disgusted to witness such happenings, however there are the few who enjoy such behavior, this sadistic few I would say have more tendencies to harm others

Answer 3

You're very correct. In fact, EVIL is the reference point for GOOD. It holds true for an average person. But, the crux is that one needs to change that reference point.

Imagine a circle where a portion is considered EVIL & the rest is termed GOOD. It's only the ratio of GOOD v/s EVIL that determines your personality/actions etc.

Just do a rethink of this concept - Where does the circle go without it's centre-point??? The centre-point is YOU...

Without YOU, no GOOD or EVIL exist. Hence, we all need to think in terms of the 'OBSERVER'; who is disassociated with all these reference points - GOOD, EVIL & YOU (ONESELF).

This is the path to self-realization. This is the true nature of success.

Answer 4

Evil is cheating the social contract for personal gain.

Good has value regardless, the contract works just fine if no one cheats.

We are driven by the desire for personal gain, so almost everyone is tempted to cheat.

But the personal gain that comes from the cooperation of society vanishes if we cheat too much. If law, (or fear of God) does not control cheating, the cheating itself punishes the cheaters. (What goes around comes around)

The bad are those who cheat, getting caught just means we know who's bad.

The good are those who don't cheat. And it doesn't much matter if that's because they're afraid of being caught, or just because they realize it sucks to be surrounded by cheaters.

Answer 5

In a way, yes. But that's oversimplified. I suppress the things within myself that I consider bad, but others might respect those same traits while abhorring the ones I do choose to act on. One man's courage may only appear as unnecessary agression to another. The other's restraint may only appear as cowardice to the first. Is that bad?

Answer 6

I'm number 13! Eeek! (I'm in the dark...11? 12?) Oh well...I'm sure you have your reasoning. :)

We would have no creation without the interplay of good and evil. We would be in a 'flat lined' existence.

We all carry these elements within us....suppressed, unleashed, etc. It keeps the comedy/drama 'happening'.

The opposites breathe life into existence.

Answer 7

Evil and God are virtual creations of Human being... In the same way Good and Bad are also created (virtual).

If we think of what is real meaning of "GOOD" or "BAD". You can't explain complete meaning.

The God's which we are praying are treated as incarinations of a one GOD ( which is agiain virtual )

I don't really understand what is the meaning of the number at the end... please leave me a message....

Answer 8

(1) Your conjecture is true for 60% people.
(2) Among the rest, 25% are incorrigibly bad, though they may be having some good qualities.
(3) And, the last 15% are congenitally good, though they may be having some bad qualities.

These are my observations.

Answer 9

there is not actually any kind of evil residing in any one
it is a state of mind at which we loose self control
if we have a hold over ourselves and are self driven
we will not fall to any evil dare and always will be closure to the supreme

shanti shanti shanti

Answer 10

Any evil that is extant is self-created. The "devil" made me do it and other such justification are merely avoiding responsibility for our own thoughts and actions.

If you have an evil side, you created it.