he has hit, 376 HR's, 2,062 hits, 410 Doubles, 1,260 RBI's and .306 BA. Plus he's a switch hitter and it always looks good playing your entire career for one team, I don't care what people say to disagree with that, the writers like that. The only knock against him is he has played in the steroid era, and thus, that might stigmatize him. Did Chipper juice? who knows.
2007-08-10 04:42:32 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Baseball
Yes, I am intrigued by HOF questions. And I think I can make some good arguments for players who aren't in who should be in, i.e. Rice, Gossage, Blyleven, Mattingly, etc
2007-08-10 04:54:27 · update #1
Hey, we finally agree. I think besides the numbers it again comes down to the fact he was one of the best third baseman in the game for a long period of time and that he played on a consistent winner.
Now, let me clarify. I think Chipper should be a HOFer (assuming he has another solid year or two), but don't know if he is quite a lock yet. Voters are hard on third baseman and it is too soon to know what type of power numbers players from this era will need. For example, I no longer think 500 is a magic number and am not convinced Jim Thome will be a HOFer.
The switch hitter thing is an interesting point. And I agree with you that playing your entire career with one team can only help (except Jim Rice).
I think Chipper will be the 3B from this era to go. Matt Williams didn't do enough and Scott Rolen of my Cardinals (great defensive player) is already slowing down at age 32
2007-08-10 05:28:50 · answer #1 · answered by Matt G 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I don't think he's a lock. Take a look at former Cub great, Ron Santo's career numbers.......
AVG .277
HR 342
RBI 1331
* MLB leader most seasons leading league in double plays for third basemen - 6 (tie with Mike Schmidt and Heine Groh)
* 9 Time All-Star
* 5 Time Gold Glove winner
Santo has been waiting a LONG time to get the call from Cooperstown, but no dice so far.
Chipper has won a WS and has been a part of more (alot more) winning teams than Santo.
Did Chipper cheat? Who knows? Is the pitching that Chipper face(d)s 'watered down' compared to what Santo's went up against? You bet. If you ask the vast majority of people involved in baseball about Santo, they would say he should be in the HOF.
Chipper will always be associated with the infamous 'steroid era' of baseball. Not sure this will keep him on the outside looking in, but pretty much guarantees that he will not be a first ballot inductee.
Time will tell. I think he'll get in though.
2007-08-10 16:46:12 · answer #2 · answered by linux_dm 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
First of all I do not think Chipper juiced as he misses time for his injuries. And like someone else answered, his body type has never really changed over the years. He has been a great player for the braves and a great clutch hitter in the past for the club. I think he should be a Hall of Famer and I believe alot of people in the Majors do right now. He is the National League Version of Derek Jeter I believe. As far as his numbers go, then they are worty of Hall of Fame candidacy I think. He is a great team player, as he moved to the outfield and sacrificed a couple of years on his career by doing it and he has taken some pay cuts to help the Braves sign some good players to help the team better themseleves. And he didnt knock AROD in what he wrote either. And he was one of the last people to win a NL MVP AWARD while Bonds was playing good...lol.... And I will end it on this note: Chipper is my favorite player ever.
2007-08-10 12:16:49 · answer #3 · answered by Shane101 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Ok first, No one has ever accused Chipper of steriod use and his body type hasn't really changed in the 14 years he's played so there isn't any reason to suspect that he has.
As for his current numbers, because he played in the steriod era, they don't quite stack up with other Hall of Famers from this era, yet. The key word being "yet". If he can continue his pace and get over 400 HR, 500 doubles, and 1500 RBI, while keeping his career BA over .300 then yes, I would consider him a lock for the Hall.
2007-08-10 11:48:48 · answer #4 · answered by doctorklove07 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Boy, you really like these HOF questions don't you.
If I had a vote and he retired now, no, now. Yes, then. I would not cast my vote for him.
I don't think he has juiced, but I am not sure.
But, as you got an answer in your Edgar post about being in the home run era, while Edgar wasn't a 'home run hitter', Chipper is and I don't think his #'s represent greatness over a long term.
We are now in an age when we may be refusing 500 home run hitters. an average of 27 home runs and 90 RBIs is not quite HOF, especially considering he hasn't experienced the down turn in his career yet.
2007-08-10 11:51:08 · answer #5 · answered by brettj666 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe he will get in. A few injuries have hurt his overall numbers the past few seasons. He has won an MVP in the Bonds era. I thinkhe will play a few more years, so he will probably finish up wit around 450 hrs, 1550 rbi, and probably around 2800 hits. If he stays over .300 lifetime that would helpa great deal. Not too many switch hitters are in the HOF with a lifetime .300 average and that have hit with power. Overall not too many 3B in the hof as well.
2007-08-10 12:16:11 · answer #6 · answered by Frank P 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Honestly, I'm a die-hard Braves fan and everything, but I can't STAND Chipper Jones. At first he was a great player and was in it for the game. Then came all that money. He's so freakin' cocky it's not funny. Not to mention the fact that he can't stub his toe without being on th DL for six weeks every season. And pray when he comes up to bat that there's no one on first. It's a duoble-play nine time out of ten. I certainly hope that man never makes the HOF.
2007-08-10 13:04:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Chipper is close. A few more good seasons should get him in. He is very anti-steroid and was on the news possibly questioning A-Rod. You can pretty much tell Chipper didn't do 'roids or he wouldn't have missed so much time with nagging injuries.
2007-08-10 11:48:56 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
No one, ever, is a "lock" for the Hall.
Aside from that, Chipper has built quite a sterling career and will get some generous returns from the writers ballot in his time. I think he will merit induction when he is finished.
2007-08-10 15:32:13 · answer #9 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Not a lock right now but it's possible he can make it if he hits 500 Hr or gets 3000 hits before he's done playing but I wouldn't say a lock.
2007-08-10 11:56:17 · answer #10 · answered by Greg 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋