How do you convince an evolutionist that their religion is wrong?

Question

Every time new evidence comes forth that either contradicts the evolutionary paradigm, or supports creationism, it is either trivialized to the point that it cannot hurt the core belief, or is added to the paradigm by slightly modifying the supposed "mechanism" of evolution. The core belief has never been questioned, and is actually being called a "fact" now by most people (which is scary). Is this some sick sociological experiment to see how many people will accept a blatant lie based on logical fallacies and misinformation?

Answer 1

I don't even know where to begin with your question. You are seriously confused.

First off evolution is science not religion.

I have never seen any true evidence supporting the Christian 7 day belief. The so called "evidence" brought forth is usually a complete fabrication or a twisting of facts made to support some creationists' beliefs.

The reason evolution is called fact by most people is because it is PROVEN to be so.

If you don't believe the above statement to be true: next time you get sick you should inform your doctor that you don't want any antibiotics that were created after the 1940's because it is impossible for the bacteria to have evolved into a form that is resistant to the original penicillin.

By the way I'm a creationist, I believe God created the earth.

I don't believe that the Bible, a book written by man, is inerrant. Nor do I believe that I know how God works.

The Bible may have been divinely inspired, but between the church's revisions, the changes made in translation, the differences in the different translations, and the fact that there isn't an original copy of either the Old or New Testament that exists, how could you believe it to be the complete and total truth?

If you want a simple proof that it isn't inerrant just look at the 2 different versions of the 10 Commandments. Which is the true version? (Ex. 20, Deut. 5)
Also if needed I can point out several places where the Bible contradicts itself.

My belief is that God created the Earth and life upon it. I believe he used evolution to do this, and I believe he is continuing to do so. I have no concrete proof of this or of his existence, but I still believe this to be.

THIS IS CALLED FAITH.

It is the main requirment in the worship of God.

Science requires facts that can be proven.

Stop trying to make religion into science.

Answer 2

you could start by producing evidence and arguments that actually discuss the evidence instead of rhetoric that just assumes your position is true and the other guys are liars.

i am not aware of a single piece of evidence explained by creationism (whatever the form, young earth, old earth, or ID) that is not better explained by mainstream science including evolution. when you talk about new evidence that contradicts the evolutionary paradigm i am suspicious because most creationists i've talked to have a very limited understanding of the evolutionary paradigm. mostly they argue against straw men. when they claim to find evidence supporting creationism, it is often considered in isolation - no attempt is made to fit it into a larger coherent picture. for instance some may say that marine fossils on mountain tops is evidence of noah's flood - but then why are there sometimes fossils of land creatures further down the mountain? we get absurdities like clams outrunning cheetahs to high ground if we follow through on creationist scenarios.

then of course, there are arguments like yours, that seem to have been copied from criticisms of creationism and applied to evolution without any care for whether the criticisms are actually relevant.

Answer 3

hmm, how about, "How can you convince everyone that evolutionism does not exclude God's role?".

Oh, sorry, i'm a catholic.

okay, okay, these are the things that you might find interesting in looking for suitable arguements against evolution:

a) 16s mitochondrial RNA
b) carbon-dating
c) darwinism
d) why men have nipples
e) why some snakes have rudimentary pelvic bone (even though they have no legs)
f) the astragalus bone of a whale
g) Genesis as a work of poetry
h) Genesis as a compilation of works from many authors, inspired by God but unable to tell the exact story of Creation due to inaccessibility to modern science and technology at their own time
i) i like to argue :)
j) humans (mankind) is special and we are excluded from the evolution theory (as of now). that's why we must always on the constant search for truth in this thing called 'evolution'. knowledge is ever-evolving, new ones replacing old ones as time goes by. God's word will stay but interpretation evolves with time.

Answer 4

No, it's how science works. There is an enormous amount of evidence in favour of evolution. If you prefer to believe something like, for instance, the world was created in seven days 4000 years ago, well, OK, but given the staggeringly vast amount of evidence disproving this, that's akin to believing the earth is flat.
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Answer 5

Evolution is definitely the biggest lie ever to be perpetually woven into society by indoctrination. These people are all so conditioned to react with knee-jerk defense of the infallible evolution, that every single contradictory piece of evidence is automatically labeled as creationist pseudo-science. They then start spouting off nonsense about creationists not believing in modern medicine, believing in a flat earth, and that they are akin to believers in geocentricism. This is only because they are not accustomed to thinking logically about their arguments.

The fact that many creationists have PhD degrees in every field of science from secular universities does not venture into their thought process when they start vehemently claiming support of their beliefs by “real scientists.” Apparently majority opinion is what qualifies as true science, and absolute truths and reality are submissive to this democratic process.

You can’t really blame these guys for parroting this stuff though. Most of us have been so indoctrinated into evolution since the time we were wee little tykes, it’s amazing anyone can openly criticize evolution (although in many cases, teachers have lost their jobs for doing just that). For most of us, it started around kindergarten when we opened our little picture books about dinosaurs and read those four lying words that were forever imprinted on our impressionable little minds: “Millions of years ago…” This is then reinforced by the media, movies, television, magazines, books, zoos, aquariums, museums, science textbooks, science teachers, professors, and even naïve people in general, so that the idea of a 6000 year history becomes a fringe-belief, and ridiculously long time periods (i.e. millions, billions, trillions, quadrillions, etc.) become cold, hard, indisputable fact.

Common-sense and logical reasoning do not factor into the debate, because all an evolutionist has to do is regurgitate the claim that there is “tons of evidence” for evolution, effectively alleviating them from actually researching, or debating the veracity of this supposed evidence. They will never question the “fact” that evolution happened (and never have, I might add), so by definition, everything that contradicts it must be pseudo-science. Think of it like this: if the premise of your religion is that your religion is not a religion but is indisputable fact, and any idea that contradicts or presupposes alternate methods of hypothetical origins that conflict with your own are automatically labeled as “religions”, then as long as you convince enough people to follow your religion by insidiously defining on your own terms both what constitutes science and what constitutes religion, you cannot be proven wrong. Hence, evolution prevails.

Hooray for ignorance. The only thing worse than being ignorant, is being willingly ignorant.

Answer 6

Evolution isn't a religion. It's a scientific theory.
Did you notice no one is worshiping gravitation?

Answer 7

You don't.
Evolition isn't a religion, and it isn't wrong.
Religion is wronger than evolution by any rational measure and you choose to believe in that don't you?
Let the evolutionist have his "religion".
He has the right to it, as you do to yours.

Answer 8

Firstly, evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific theory. Secondly, evolution is now a proven fact (proof details are available on request), so it is impossible for evolution to be wrong: every claim that it is wrong is necessarily erroneous.

Answer 9

Who is to say how God does things? Does He not work in mysterious ways?

Answer 10

Its great that you asked this question, because I just finished watch Dr. Kent Hovind's lecture on a 100 reasons why the evolution religion is stupid. All I can say is that people are very ignorant. And they should all watch his videos. I've attached a link down there, check it out.