Randy Johnson has 284 or something like that, But his with his back I don't know if he is going to pitch again. Mike Mussina is in the 230's probably too old and too far away. No one is close after that. Tommie could be the last.
2007-08-09 02:45:37 · 16 answers · asked by Scott W 3 in Sports ➔ Baseball
Yes, he will be the last one we see unless MLB teams start to drastically change the way starting pitchers are used. A pitcher needs 20 15 win seasons or 15 20 win seasons to hit 300. With a 5 man rotation and the way managers are so quick to go to the bullpen these days, there is virtually no chance of a pitcher getting that many wins over that many years.
2007-08-09 08:50:02 · answer #1 · answered by DoReidos 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think Glavine will definetely be last 300-game winner for a long time. Johnson has 284, but he just had back surgery and would probably have to pitch two seasons to get 16 wins. Every pitcher who has 200 wins other than Pedro Martinez and Mussina are over 40. If Pedro didn't have those injuries, he easily would have won 300. In the future, you may have a guy like Roy Oswalt, Dontrelle Willis, CC Sabathia, or Justin Verlander reach 300 wins. That is only based on the fact that they don't get injured. There might be a pitcher who isn't even in the major leagues right now who wins 300 games. You never know...
2007-08-09 02:59:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think Mussina will make it. I think he's got it in him. He actually isn't as far along as I thought I heard previously, but I could see him at about 12-15/year getting it done. Especially if he could squeeze out a couple 18s or so. I also bet that if he gets close he'll hang around longer than he otherwise would to reach it.
Johnson, I don't think will do it. If he comes back at all it will probably be at a quality that would make it take 2 years even if he stays realtively healthy. So, it would come down to taking the pride hit of taking less money and not being what he was vs. reaching a major landmark. I don't think he can stay healthy though. I wouldn't be suprised either way though.
The one thing I will say though is don't rule out the future. I know the game is evolving, but I'm sure there will be a few pitchers over time that will come along who can be that good for that long. I would be very hesitant to say "the last" for anything really, maybe except for Ripken's record (even that though, you never know).
2007-08-09 04:14:11 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It will happen again. Not counting Johnson who has a shot, or the slight chance Mussina has, other will do it. Glavine averages 34 starts a year, and averages 2 complete games per year. Maddux agerages 34 starts a year as well and so does Clemens. The years that they have pitched, the thought process hasn't changed much. Give us 7 good innings and your done for the day. You can see this trend happening for the years to come. If someone can remain healthy and have good years, it will happen again, and the proof is the guys that are reaching the 300 win mark now.
2007-08-09 02:59:46 · answer #4 · answered by Frank P 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Mussina could have a chance if he stays healthy. I doubt it though. And Johnson has a chance also if he could regain form for 1 more season, but he seems to have too many injuries right now.
But im sure someone will do it again. Right now baseball is played with a much greater influence on relief pitching and reliefe specialists. Thats why starters dont get nearly as many descions as they used. They are yanked out of close games in the 6 ot 7 inning all the time now.
It is very possible that sometime down the road that can and will change. They may go back to a style of having pitchers go deeper into games. That would allow them to get more wins. But time will tell.
2007-08-09 02:51:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
They will be last for a while. Until baseball changes the way it manages it's pitchers I think you'll see decline in overall wins by starting pitchers. There's been a significant decline in the amount of starts, innings pitched and wins by starting pitchers over the last 30 years. There's just a few of the old dogs left, like Maddux, Glavine, Johnson and Clemens. These guys work hard to stay in shape and have competitive nearly every year of their career. They seem to do things the old way, their way. Not like starting pitchers of today. Now a days, so many pitchers are getting hurt and/or having their innings cut back. Rarely do I see starting pitchers make it past the 7th innings or make it a full season. Compare that to many of the elite pitchers of 70's which would finish the season 20+ wins with 18+ CG's consintantly.
2016-05-17 22:07:01 · answer #6 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If history has taught us anything it's that noone regardless of how it may seem has set a record that is untouchable. When Lou Gehrig retired, people said that his streak of 2,130 games (all due respect to a tremendous accomplishment)would never be broken.
So I don't put it past anyone else to win 300 games after Tom Glavine. Even in today's game where more and more relievers are used, and sometimes where managers will put pitchers on the DL to give them some rest, I don't put it past anyone to win 300 games.
Every year someone still wins 20 games. I think you just have to look around at today's league and consider which pitchers have the stuff and the potential to hang around long enough to win 300. Is it a guy like Johan Santana who is consistantly one of the toughest starters in the league, what about Erik Bedard who gets his still wins (8 in a row and counting) on a sub .500. The guy even has a victory over the Red Sox in Fenway.
While I don't think there are a lot of pitchers who have the chance to hang around and win 300, at the same time if you looked at Glavine at this same point in his career, you could have said the same for other pitchers at the time, but there's still someone with the potential (however slight or great it may seem).
2007-08-09 04:59:17 · answer #7 · answered by Baltimore Birds Fan 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, I think so. Johnson may never pitch again, same with David Wells, and Mussina is too old and far away to get to 300. I think guys like Peavy, Verlander, and Santana will get to maybe 230-240 wins in their career's, but I really don't think anybody else is ever going to get 300 wins.
2007-08-09 03:17:01 · answer #8 · answered by metsgiantsfan333 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This was a discussion on ESPN and there is a good chance that he may be the last for a while.
Johnson and Mussina may be the last with a chance to hit the 300 mark.
2007-08-09 02:49:40 · answer #9 · answered by Panama 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
He probably is going to be the last oneto make it to 300 Randy Johnson is the closest but he is always hurt and Mike Mussina is to old to get to 300.
2007-08-09 03:06:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋