Was Mary a virgin because Augustus decreed her to be so she would...?

Question

...not be stoned to death for being pregnant. Did Caesar, the god, see an exceptional opportunity when Antony knocked up Cleopatra.
Do people who have every reason to believe they are gods think different than you do?
Is power and control their primary agenda. Does the Christian religion agenda include power and control.
Who else but Caesar and Cleopatra put together a power package like so-called Christianity. What were they really trying to accomplish. Could it be they understood the death of Abel and the requirements to reverse the Eden death curse? What went wrong? What man has been the only man to reach sacrificial status since Jesus? When was the second crucifixion? 1976?

Answer 1

Wow--that's a lot to digest, let alone answer! You're on a very interesting path, but maybe you should break this down into several topics for discussion... Your first questions would be a good basis for a novel or movie. I don't think this is the case...the whole point of that story is that Mary was supernaturally impregnated. If you believe the Bible, then you accept it at face value, if you do not believe the Bible, then it is just a fable...I've never heard the name of Augustus brought into the story at all.

Answer 2

No why would he care about a poor Jew? And being that I know you believe that Cleopatra was Mary I'd like to point out that Cleopatra wouldn't have been stoned either way because she was above the law. Caesar wasn't considered a God in Rome. He didn't have the power Cleopatra had in Egypt. He may have claimed he was a God but Romans would never have bought into that.

I don't know why people would believe they were Gods; they may claim they are so other people believe it. So no they don't think any different than average people. I can hardly say the Christian religion has an agenda because in order to have an agenda there has to be some kind of game plan and there's not one. Catholicism can be put to that claim because it actually has an organization. I am in no way claiming that Catholicism has an agenda or a want for power and control but most of Christianity isn't organized and it wouldn't make sense to claim that.

Cleopatra in no way trust Caesar. He killed her son and the only way for him to remain Caesar without problems would be to kill her. She was too powerful to leave her on the sidelines. Another thing I'd like to add is when Mark Antony died Cleopatra was around forty and when Jesus died he was thirty so that would make her at least 70. That's not counting the gap between Mark Antony's death and Octavian's reign. The life expectancy during that period was 72. She probably would have been dead or close to death then.

And on that last part you might want to research cults.

I have a proposition for you. I will read a page from any website referring to your Cleopatra-Augustus theory IF you read any portion of the Bible of my choosing and agree to answer questions about it. No worries if you don't own a bible they have them online. And just to see exactly how much you know about Roman History can you tell me who Romulus and Remus are without cheating?

What say you?

Answer 3

Mary was a virgin.
No one has any reason to think they are god.
Christian religions agenda is salvation.
Caesar and Cleopatra didn't know anybody named Able.

Answer 4

There are too many questions here. You need to narrow down a lot.

Answer 5

Man, you have a lot of questions? Read, read, read. And throw yourself in groups with older people who have much wisdom.