Can win-win situation be a reality or is it an illusion due to viewing from different angles and perspectives?

Question

I believe that the real sum of the cause and its effect ought to be zero whereas the 'win-win' assumes doubly positive.

Answer 1

There might be even triple or more positive effects.
If I take one seed. Just one little bean seed and I put it into the earth and I tend it in giving the earth enough moisture and putting a stalk into the ground where the plant can crawl up, I might have from one seed several profitable positives.
I might be able to teach my son the law of sow and reap.
I might reap at least 30 new bean seeds from one seed sown.
I can sow them the other year which will give me back 900 and if I put this into the earth the next year I will reap 27000 beans.
I could not only make home made bean soup from that but also give it to my neighbors and in that would win the vibration of joyful thoughts. Even if one person would carry this joyfulness into their daily life with others and spread the joy, I would be part of the cause of this joy and I might win the most high prize, the realization that I helped to make the earth a happier place. You know often the cause and effect cannot be zeroed out. But good caused in some way will always grow like a bean plant, bringing more and more good, even to unexpected places and with unexpected effects.
( Hallelujah)

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Conservation of Energy is a very important principal, but it’s easy to misunderstand.

Win-win means both parties gain from a transaction, NOT that energy is being created from nothing.

Earth continuously ‘wins’ a bit of the energy the Sun is continuously losing. As per CoE this is the inevitable win-lose scenario. Some of the energy Earth wins, is collected by plant life. Let’s call plant energy ‘The Pie’.

All animal life is struggling to get a piece of the Pie. Anytime cooperation between two life forms, results in both life forms getting a bigger piece of pie, you have a win-win scenario.

There are three ways cooperation gets the team more pie.

1.) You take the pie from someone else. I.e. win-win for the team. Win-lose for team vs. outsider.

2.) Raise the efficiency of pie collection. Let’s say a better plow lowers the energy expended to get a crop. I make money selling plows, you spend less money/time plowing. I.e. win-win.

3) Increase the size of the pie. Irrigation & fertilizer lets you farm previously unusable land.

The win-win scenario is the basis of society. All for One and One for All is more for me.

People who create a false illusion of win-win are known as scam artists.

Answer 4

The key word used here "assumes". To assume that "Win-Win" is doubly positive is a bit presumptuous, as the positives that are incurred continue to be causes as well as effects, therefore causing new effects and of course new causes.

Answer 5

i don't think you wish to be convinced so much as to make your point: we both cannot win here. but i'll try.

mathematically, you make sense. that is IF you believe the cause and the effect should cancel each other out, leading to zero.

realistically though, people don't seek causes to cancel out effects. instead they seek justification.

the most justifiable situations are those in which both parties see benefit. mathematically unlikely. pragmatically possible. socially desirable.

geometry examines relationships in two dimensions. human interactions require analysis in at least three, and possibly more.

the dynamics of human perception know no limits due to theorems and postulates. imagination trumps any calculation. if both sides can imagine they win, then, perhaps they have. illusion? maybe to you and me, but so long as they're happy with their reality, problem solved.

Answer 6

Absolutely there can be win win situations, for examples if you look at craigslist there are always people who are giving away stuff just so they don't have to pay or work to remove it themselves, even something like dirt that they removed from their yard to make it level can be very helpful to someone who wants to fill in an inground pool they don't like in their yard. By making the exchange it's a win win for both parties, neither was hurt and both gained.

Answer 7

Win-win is doublespeak to be condemned. Cooperation rests on its own laurels. We can do without the frat house shenanigans that confuse cooperation for enterprise.

Answer 8

sometimes it is a situation based on concrete circumstances that is good for both parties.

many times it is an illusion. what one man may consider rewarding, another may consider a burden.

Answer 9

You're incorrectly assuming both sides have exactly the same needs and that the resources are mutually exclusive (both cannot have the same resources).

Needs are different for different parties involved.

Answer 10

Your mathematics will not work here.minus X minus=+ve