Who agrees that kids under 18 being charged as adults is pure bulls#$t and highly unethical. Here is why.?

Question

Ask some questions:
Legally
Can a minor buy cigarettes
Can a minor buy alcohol
Can a minor vote
Can a minor get a drivers license in all 50 states
Can a minor sign a contract without a parent
Can a minor get married w/o parental consent
Can a minor give sexual consent
Can a minor join the service
We all know that there's more but I think if kids can be charged as adults then they should get all the rights, freedoms and privileges as adults. It's only right or we charge them as juviniles because they are still kids and can be rehabilitated so they can be better adults.

I said I'll agree with kids being charged as adults but they should get treated as full adults in society w/ adult rights that's only fair.

Why do kids commit crime:

Let's see selling drugs, to buy clothes for school cuz they get made fun of and teased. They come from a poor family.

Now if the States like Japan does have uniforms kids would learn and do the school work instead of worrying about fashion and all the BS that schools not about.

A kid shot somebody (example like a colombine shooting) now the kids that picked on them and drove them to that extreme are just as responsible if not more so for that shooting)

A kid does a drive by shooting. Well lets see the kids from compton what choice does he have join the gang or get beat up everyday and killed himelf

jus some examples of how the system can help take some prevenative measures

as well as kids being a product of they re enviroment

and the governments favoritism towards upper class America

A 13 yr old getting a life w/o parole when Paris Hilton get less than a month is wrong WRONG WRONG there is something wrong with this

Answer 1

Yes I agree, this is just being two faced, it's saying:you're responsible enough for punishment, but not responsible enough for priveleges.
Being and adult doesn't mean maturity or wisdom, and being a teen doesn't mean ur an idiot. Theres good and bad in both groups.

Answer 2

Let me address the reform you made I live in Colorado so know quite well the Columbine shottings you referred to. I am actually offended at your ignorance; it was not the bulies being killed. Many of the victims where just there, some were good kids who had done no wrong to the shooters. I will agree they were bulied, but doesnt every single school have bullies, hasnt near everyone been bullied or bullied- yes. What gave these kids the right to then kill innocent students. Even if it was only the bullies they targeted lets say, bullying and murder are quite different crimes, no? Before you try and feel no sympathy for the victims of Columbine School Massacre, do even monor research. As for the topic- I agree that a 17 year old who rapes then murders a woman, pre-medittated, should be charged as a 19 year old would be. It is a very case-by-case issue. As said above, the courts do not charge all minors as adults, it would simply be illegal and illogical.

Answer 3

Life experience allows you to make decisions based on what you have learned. A 13 year old is not responsible enough to drive a car, understand the limits of alcohol or be a doctor, so no, I don't think that they should be "treated as adults". However, a 13 year old does know whether it's right or wrong to kill, steal, assault etc and knows that there are consequences, so yes, try 'em as adults. Nothing else seems to work.

Answer 4

Paris wouldn't get life without parole for violating her probation. That would be wrong.

If a fifteen year old kills a clerk while robbing the Quicky Mart then he should get life. That would be justice. I know plenty of "kids" who are perfectly capable of killing someone (and some of them probably have), the circumstances that bring them to that crossroad are not as important to the case as you would like to believe. In other words stealing because you're poor and want to buy a new set of sneakers is still wrong.

I could wax on about the failings of your logic but I could not get over the Paris comment. Now my brain hurts.

Answer 5

I was going to say something until I read your comment about comparing "Paris Hilton's" stay to a kid getting life without parole. I would lay a large wager that there is a drastic difference between Paris Hilton's transgression and the one that landed the 13-year old in jail for life without parole. I'll just say that a lack of legal status to participate in certain activities does not excuse violent crime.

Answer 6

We are seeing much more violent crime committed by teenagers.
*If a child of 12 or 14, raped your wife, mother sister, daughter etc it would be ok to treat them as a child?
*How about if they torture that female with items like bottles, sticks, umbrellas and such? (it DOES and HAS happened). Would it be ok then to treat them as a child?
*How about if they break into a home and viciously attack an elderly person? Beating him senseless before they set him on fire? It would be ok to treat them as a child?
*What if they take guns into school and start shooting people randomly? Killing some and leaving some paralyzed for life?Would it be ok to treat them as a child then?
These are a few examples of things that teenagers have done recently. Their crimes have destroyed lives. Their crimes have scarred people physically and emotionally for life. Their crimes have left children without parents. Their crimes have taken people away from loved ones.
While you think it is unethical to treat these teens as an adult, it is just as unethical to give them a slap on the wrist for the violent crimes they have committed.

Answer 7

I think it depends. Some youngsters have more sense than adults do, and do know the difference between right and wrong. Jail isn't always the answer though, as you said sometimes rehabilitation is necessary and can be useful.

Answer 8

if you are old enough to do the crime you can do the time
if what you are doing is wrong and you know it you can do the time for your crimes
yes we can try to rehab them but for most of the crimes you are charged as an adult for it's sort of a lost cause...

maybe if parents would do better jobs raising the kids we wouldn't be having this discussion

Answer 9

juvenile cases moved to adult court is an extenuating circumstance. it happens when the crime is so heinous as to appall even the most liberal imagination and/or legal mind.
it surely is a necessary evil. the victims remain in their own misery impacted for life.
yes.....under normal circumstances you are correct. under extreme circumstances, there can be no other recourse.

Answer 10

a 12 yr old knows its wrong to kill...therefore he does it because he wants to and the can pay the price.....life w/o parole...