Who do you blame more for holdouts? Player or Agent?

Question

Brady Quinn is still holding out, but all the articles I read don't mention Brady, only his agent. Browns stall in talks with Condon, not Brady. So is it really the players fault or the agents for holdouts?

Answer 1

agents

believe it or not players wanna play. but agents wanna play law and order and see how much money they can get. The only thing they need to get is there butts on the field

Answer 2

It depends on who reported the holdout and who wanted it more, but it's a mix of both. It's the player's fault for allowing the holdout and it's the agent's fault for wanting the holdout and/or vice versa. Sometimes, it's apparent that agents, like a lot of people in this world, only care about money - their 10% (or whatever the deal is). How else do you explain the deals given to Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Dwight Freeney, A.J. Hawk, etc. when they don't deserve it since they haven't proven to earn anywhere close to that amount. Any of the rookies fall into that category since the deals come before the practices. If you were a general manager, would you sign a player $60,000,000 worth of guaranteed money if they haven't proven ANYTHING in the National Football League? On the other side, however, it's often the players who are the greedy ones. Otherwise, players would not be paid so heavily. If no player had an ounce of greed, they would be paid the same salary as a doctor, which is not allowed in the NFL. Money when used correctly is a good thing, but much like a lot of things in this world (i.e. any material possession), when used incorrectly, in excess, or in lack therof, it turns into just the opposite. In fact, there are very few things in this world that you can never have too much of and I'm sure you know what they are.

Answer 3

agent... i hate it when the players say they want to be with the team during camp but don't show up because a deal isn't done. Why not go to camp during the negotiating process so you don't fall behind and then if a deal doesn't get done before the beginning of the season sit out. The players do not know enough about working a deal so they do whatever the agent says. The agent has to much power throughout the entire proces.

Answer 4

Players....They pick an agent because of how they do business. they know who the cutthroat agents are and what tactics they do, that is why they pick them so they can not play the little "I just want to play" game. Players are hypocrites, the game is always a business at contract time, but when they are in the playoffs it's not about the money. They want thier cake and eat it to.

Why does Quinn think he deserves upper pay, because he came from ND and thinks he deserves it. Well there were over 20 other teams that didnt think so either.

Answer 5

I will never hold an agent to blame more than a player. These players are all adults and are perfectly capable of making up their own mind if they don't agree with the agent. People like Scott Boras and Drew Rosenhaus (I have no idea if I spelled those right) get a bad name because they tend to speak on behalf of the stars they represent, but I've never heard one of those players come out to publicly refute a statement made by them.

Players are ultimately to blame, especially in the case of a rookie, prove something before you complain.

Answer 6

Agents usually put thier clients behind the eight ball. There have been some agents that forbid thier clients from signing. I may be wrong, but the redskins had a top pick some years back that fired his agent because he held the player out all pre-season and the skins traded his draft rights to Tampa

Answer 7

The player! He hides behind his agent. He can fire his agent, or make him take the deal at any time. The agent is there to take the heat for the player. Those players need to be in camp practicing! There shouldn't even be agents. These players are supposed to be college graduates - they should make their own deals.

Answer 8

Don't you think it's the team's fault sometimes? With Quinn, I think it's pretty clear that he and his agent are being unreasonable, not the team. However, with some holdouts, I think the team is more at fault than the agent/player. For example, I think that LJ deserves to get paid by the Chiefs.

Answer 9

Players. The agents work for them, so if those guys really wanted to play, they could put their foot down and get it done. I think Quinn has an over-inflated sense of his worth as a #22 pick and Russel is apparently up against an immovable force in the Raiders' front office. They just don't want to pay the guy.

Answer 10

Agent

Answer 11

It's more the agents blame but still the player wouldn't be holding out if he didn't want to not practice until he got more money.