Illegal downloads.?

Question

It has come to the attention of several authors who hang out on this board and help others that there are several here who run sites containing illegal downloads of copyrighted material like Harry Potter and the Stephanie Meyer books. Keyword - illegal. These books are protected by FEDERAL copyright laws. Distributing them is illegal and a federal offense. Read the US Copyright laws. If you can download the books, you can download the laws too.

Let it be known that several authors here are sick and tired of seeing the hard work of authors stolen. Authors write for a living and they have every right to be compensated for their work - in other words PAID for their books. Posting and sharing illegal sites with illegal copies of these and other books will not be tolerated. We will report you to Abuse. We will also contact the publishers - Scholastic, Little Brown etc. as well as the American agents who represent these authors. If you get caught, they can and will press charges.

Authors have the right to make a living writing. They sell books. If you enjoy their work, do not steal from them. It is just like walking into their homes and stealing a TV set. It is a crime and a very serious one. Your IP address can be traced to the company that provides your internet service. A warrant can require that company to reveal the name of their customer. If your internet service is in your parents names, you are subjecting your parents to a lot of trouble, including fines and even possibly arrest. Ask any kid who got their parents in trouble stealing music from Napster. This is NOT a joke. This is a genuine and serious CRIME.

Also do not visit these sites. Traffic there is also traceable. In addition, many of the sites are virused. Don't download anything.

These books cost less than 20 bucks. If you cannot afford one, borrow one from a friend or the library. Or get a babysitting job and buy one. This is no longer funny. You will be reported. Trust me on that. Pax -

One of several authors tired of seeing people's work stolen by irresponsible kids

If you are an author and you see such abuse here -please report it to Yahoo immediately. The next book they steal could be yours.

Here is my question. Who is going to turn these thieves into Yahoo Abuse??

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Good point, Divinatum. Cconsult, I want a set of Louis Vuitton luggage, but I can't afford it. Does that give me the right to steal it because Louis Vuitton doesn't bring the price down? Hardly. If you can't afford a book - use the library. Stealing is stealing, isn't it? There - another question.

shekikak - if you don't know the basic difference between borrowing and stealing, there is something basically wrong. Authors understand that their books will be borrowed and checked out of libraries and yes, even sold used. However it is the blatant stealing we object to. What is the difference between borrowing and stealing? Another question

Answer 1

You can get as high handed as you want to about this, but the fact is, the internet used to be a free forum where people shared things. The music and publishing industry turned it's nose up at it and refused to acknowledge that it's content had a place there. When the distributors discovered that they were actually losing money to this grand social experiment, they decided to change the rules, much as Bill Gates did when he discovered that there really WAS a reason for people to have more than 640kb on a personal computer, and there really WAS money to be made in web pages (after Yahoo and Google ran away with it)

Now the music and publishing industry is faced with the dreadful task of convincing people that it really didn't mean it when it said that it didn't care what people did on the internet. They are trying to convince people that their content is worth money, while they are busy giving it away to attract people to their sites! They are going to win this eventually, but there is really no reason to get officious over this. The distributors made their own bed when they decided to be short sighted and forgo jumping on the bandwagon when it first took off. Now, they are forced to play catchup, and no amount of moralizing is going to change that. They are also wringing their hands over the fact that over three hundred thousand books in the public domain are lost to them forever because they did not figure out a way to make money off of them fast enough. Would you like us to feel bad for them over that as well?

J. K. Rowling specifically stated that she would not allow the seventh Harry Potter book to be published electronically. That leaves several million potential readers with palm pilots and e-book readers out in the cold. How is that fair to them? She has a right to do this by the way, but if she does, and she does not realize the consequences, then whoever is advising her is a complete fool! If you are sick and tired of having your work stolen, put it online for a reasonable price. (taking into consideration that there are no stocking fees, no material fees, and nothing more than the website to sustain, (which means that the e-book doesn't have to cost as much as the hardcover or paperback) Then you will have the moral high ground. Until then, please refrain from preaching and ask a question!

P.S. before you even check, all of my posts lists sources that are in the public domain. If anything on the website fails that litmus test, it is the web designer's responsibility to take the offending material down, and as soon as you notify them, I am sure they will be happy to comply. Many even say it on the home page of their sites. There is a vast difference between sharing material in the public domain, and illegally uploading copy written material and every I.S.P. in America is already supposed to be on guard against it. When and if you see anything that goes against those guidelines, report it, as we all do, instead of trying to act like the internet F.B.I. and scare us all into submission!

Response to Divinatum! We happen to own a perfectly legitimate copy of Mrs. Rowling's latest opus, ($17.00 ) as we do the other six. If she wants to know who is going to turn the scofflaws in, obviously it is her and maybe even you. That question was asked after the fact however, and my point concerning the original diatribe stands, silly creature!

(This is getting fun) I don't believe your luggage manufacturers ever declined to sell their luggage and ignore the buying public as the publishing industry obviously did. The issue was not the "price" but the availability! If your luggage manufacturers decided to stop selling the luggage to train passengers for instance, do you think for a moment, that they would simply pack their belongings in cardboard boxes? When a segment of the market is ignored, something will replace the sucking black hole which is the vacuum which ensues! I do not begrudge anyone their thirty pieces of silver, render unto Caesar and all of that. It is when they say "Never Mind" and then come back and say "Oops, we didn't mean it" that I cease to exude sympathy!

I have a large collection of legal books, Records Cd's, legitimate software, and legal connections to both my cable television and broadband internet. I am as legal as you can get. If you want me to show sympathy for an abused ignored market base that has just recently begun to wake up to the fact that it was dead wrong however, you are sadly mistaken!

By the way, if stealing is wrong, isn't unfair restriction of trade (refusing to sell to the E-book industry) and antitrust a crime as well? You said - "If you can't afford a book - use the library." Back in the good old days (When I was neither good nor old) I used to borrow books from friends. I suppose this is no longer legal either? Oh, and how about the internet libraries? I suppose they should all dry up and blow away as well? Why not make it possible to pay the author their royalty, and cut out the distributor altogether! That would be legal right? But I don't suppose the industry would look too kindly toward that solution either!

The difference between borrowing and stealing is that when you borrow from an individual, it is a one on one transaction. When you steal the material and sell it for profit (such as they do in swap meets and even legitimate businesses - want to bet I can find knockoffs of your louie V. Luggage?) it is stealing. When people ask for a way to purchase something legitimately and the publishing company says "NO!" that is restriction of trade. When the publishing companies get together and say that they will sell in print but not in electronic media, that is collusion which falls by definition into the antitrust area of the house. I noticed that you are ignoring my other challenge as well.

What is the difference between asking a question and using Yahoo answers as a soapbox to vent your frustrations, rant, or otherwise violate the question and answer format?

Since this is still here, I will add one thought. Ethics aside, how do you account for the fact that in every study in which file sharing was encouraged, the author's / composer's sales figures actually went up? Audiogalaxy actually refused to share my silly little MP3 files for free, because they claimed that the RIAA prohibited them from doing so, even though I was the composer / author and gave them permission. I now share my silly little MP3s on Soundclick.com. I am not vain enough to presume that I could actually sell my silly little MP3s and make a profit from them, but I am a little put off by the idea that a regulating agency would restrict my legal right to share them!

Answer 2

I think a serious fan will buy the book anyway. I have bought many a CD just because I believe the artist is great - even though my friends could have burnt me a copy.

P.S. I think the whole HP thing can be used a great example here. The book was available for illegal download (2-3 days before its release). Yet the onslaught of Yahoo Question’s questions, spoilers, and answers continued. Everyone was so caught up in the frenzy they didn't realize (or more likely just wouldn’t allow themselves to admit) they could get the book for free.

They essentially would not steel or even acknowledge they could steel because they wanted to be part of the phenomena. Now that is a true fan base and one that will make any author money.

Answer 3

I know. Isn't it sad? People are missing the free, LEGAL way to read books. All they need to do is to:

(a) Get a library card, and

(b) Log in on their local public library website and start downloading books, legally

In other words, they're missing the point. The real question that people ought to be focusing on isn't whether or not it's right to denounce illegal downloads, but whether or not we ought to head for those illegal sources at all. And the answer is a most resounding "No!" Why do things illegally if you can do it legally and easily? Many books already come with the ultimate price of NOTHING, if you know where to look (hint: it's taxpayer funded with lots of shelving).

To those to which the following lines pertain to: Stop vilifying people and trying to justify your actions - if we really wanted to find legal loopholes, we would've consulted a lawyer, the great enablers of society.

Finally, I suspect that were some of these answerers making a living by their pens themselves (or attempting to), they would have responded a whole lot differently from the way they are right now.

Answer 4

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Enjoy it.

Answer 5

No

Answer 6

Amen. I hate seeing questions asking where people can download free versions of books. I wonder why all the sites that are recommended are still allowed to be on the Web. I know that people don't like spending money, but authors don't write books for charity. (Unless they really DO write books for charity, but still...)

If you don't wanna spend money on the book, go to the library and check it out. That's what the library is for.

=)

Answer 7

I could not agree more. If you want a book, go to to the bookstore and cough up the money to buy it so the author can get paid for their work. A writer writes, but he doesn't do it for free.

I love your comment about the Louis Vuitton luggage- just because you can't afford something doesn't give you the right to steal it. If you can't afford it, go to a library- that's what they were created for.

Answer 8

My goodness you are right!!! I'm sure everything will change and be better now. Good job. I was going to illegally download a book to read this morning, essentially cheating some deserving author out of about twenty bucks, but I'm going to take your advice and borrow it from a friend, so they will get their money that way. Not sure how it works, must be some of that "new math", but you must know how it works. You're smart. You're an AUTHOR!!!

Answer 9

No need to write essays to answer this one:

Nothing is free. If you get books for free from the net, you steal the author's work. How would YOU feel if you wrote a book and someone just took it and put it on a website???

Answer 10

She did ask a question. She asked who is going to turn these thieves in. And the answer is a lot of people are. Including me. How is that for an answer? I don't remember her saying anything about the prices of books. Harry Potter cost about 18 bucks. That is a reasonable price to me. Is that too much for you? Just because you can't afford to buy something does that give you the right to steal it? I don't think so. A lot of us kids managed to get the 20 dollars and buy Harry Potter without stealing. Give us some credit. Not all kids out here are stealing.

Answer 11

I think yahoo answers rules are you're supposed to ask a question.

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'divinatum'
FYI, she posted the question AFTER I posted my comment. Until then it was a rant, justified or not, and we had no way of knowing what she was asking. How can we respond appropriately then? (I got 4 thumbs down just because I pointed out there was no question asked?)
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