atheists, how wasthe big bang created?

Question

if you think god didnt create it then how do you think it started

and if you dont know, then why would you think it wasnt god?

Answer 1

Jay

How was God created?

If you don't know, then why would you think it wasn't the big bang?

Answer 2

Temporal regressions are impossibilities for all philosophical thought. The atheist like the theist must take some things on "faith" (the blind acceptance of an issue).

Theists have just as difficult an issue with temporal regression with the notion of God. What was God doing before 'he' created the universe? If a theist says God was doing nothing, then the question becomes what changed God's state of "mind"? Before he creates "the universe" his state is stable for "almost eternity," then "something" shifts 'him' out of a such a state. What could do that? And if the change came from within him, the question then becomes, why did it not occur to him 'sooner'? Answers to these questions are just as daunting as those that the atheist must construct for the Big Bang. Both groups, however, rely on some 'faith'. And, as you note, some simply combine the two to make the Big Bang 'caused' by God (which gets one around the issue of the Big Bang's origin, but does not solve the issues regarding God's 'history' and 'motivations' for constructing in such a way).

Answer 3

I don't believe that God created a Big-Bang.... if He exists, He could have created the universe without any Big-Bang.

Secondly, assuming God created everything, including the Big-Bang as you imply, then who created God, how did He come to be and what was before He came to be?

In fact, whether we believe in God or not, the question of Origin is not answerable within the parameters of space and time. Whichever way we look at it, there seems to be only two possibilities... EITHER all of this is Continuum without any beginning or end and we identify any beginning or end only because of changes happening continually.... OR everything must have come out of nothing just as zero can be split into several plus values and minus values, which together sum up to zero.
Of course that is easier said than can either be proved or perfectly comprehended. That however, is no reason to believe in God or any Almighty being.... in fact such a concept seems self-contradictory because an all powerful, all knowing and all present entity would be so self-full and complete that there can remain no desire, no will, no purpose to create any universe or life.

Answer 4

This question should have been posed to scientists, and philosophers, not atheists. Atheists are not a unified group.

With a question like this you are bound to run into the anthropic principle. The fallacious princible goes like this. Let us observe O(our expirence of the universe) and consider two explanations. Given explanation A(the universe created itself), the probability of O is very low, but given explanation B(god created the universe or we exist in one of an infinite number of alternate universes), the probability is high. It tempting to deduce from this that the probability is much higher for B than A, but there is no principle of logic or probability that allows this. You are assuming we have a complete list of alternatives, but we only have this one example of the universe.

So lets say that you believe god made the universe? You are in the same redundant position because what created god? You can imagine a supreme intelligence that can manipulate nothing from outside of time and create a universe, but you can't imagine that engery may just be raw potential that can condense into matter and create a universe? Can you imagine an eternal substance that needs no explanation of origin? Its called an infinite regress. Either way you are stretching the imagination, but here we are thinking about this stuff. Either way its just pure speculation. But since what I have learned about quantum mechanics says about the abstract ways of our universe and that it has always seemed to me that the whole idea of god was a man made idea, i speculate in the direction of a godless universe. But no matter what you think its still amazingly beautiful that we even get the chance to be here, talking about such absurd things.

Answer 5

Keith's right, the idea of an uncaused cause is unimaginable. I'm only slightly less skeptical of the big bang than I am of a God-caused beginning. The big bang theory gets way more credence than it deserves, in my opinion - only because big names have spent a lot of time on it, and because the idea of a beginning is aesthetically pleasing to so many people. I'm not totally an "atheist" but I certainly don't believe in an intelligent Creator god. I think the idea of a beginning may well be a red herring, a delusion, and trying to characterize it perhaps is something you do when you're misled, like trying to find the "meaning of life."

Answer 6

First: Atheist are persons that don't believe in God. If we don't believe in God why we need to invent a God to explain a deep scientific theory.

Second: According to the laws of physics you can't create or destroy the material that conform the Universe. Is that is correct them the start of this Universe, the Big Bang, is just the death of a previous one.

Answer 7

I am not an atheist. That said, your question is flawed. Asking "How was the big bang created?" falsely limits the available answers, resulting in a biased intellectual playing field. It is a little like asking a person, "What weapon do you use to commit your crimes?" while they are still protesting innocence. They can't answer the question as posed.

But if you are trying to ask, "What are the atheists theories about the origin of the big bang?," you would do best to do your research in a more academically inclined setting (e.g. read journal articles).

Answer 8

I think whatever began the beginning, it was a natural occurrence of whatever existed. Just because I can say "I don't know," it doesn't follow that the world came about from a magic elf in the sky. You see, that just doesn't make sense to me.

Conversely, when a child is cured of cancer by a physicians attention, why do you Christians say, "Oh boy, god answered our prayers."? When other children die of the same disease do you attribute that to your god also? If god is omnipotent, then why not save both children from cancer? Has the one who died done some offense to your god? Is that one worth less to your god? Or is god not omnipotent and unable to save both? You can't have it both ways.

Oh, I know all the explanations you can pull out, so please don't try to enlighten me with them.

Answer 9

The big bang started with some homies around the way. They started to get bullied all the time so they started to bang. When it got big it was officially the big bang gang. I know it wasn't started by god, it was the homies around the way.

Answer 10

Jumping to the supernatural conclusion does not make common sense. It's like using CAVE MAN logic to explain the unknown. Initial cause is unknown.....