How many Dems really admire Castro, Chavez, Stalin, N.Korea? Isn't that just the silliest talking point you..

Question

ever heard? I'm a moderate to liberal Dem, and I don't know any dems that support any kind of extreme regimes or dictators, left or right. I think maybe Social Workers party might admire those, but not even Dennis Kucinich would praise Chavez or Castro. It's such a silly example of Hannity/Limgaugh/O'Reilly/Coulter and their black and white thinking.
If I think the USA would improve if it became a bit more like Canada, that means (to them) that I want North Korea???
Stop being so ridiculous. I don't even compare your Bush to Hitler. That's really stretching it too, but cons have major problems with cognitive distortions: fortune telling, all or nothing thinkng, disqualifying the positive, magnifying the negative, and jumping to conclusions.

Answer 1

I don't admire Stalin or North Korea, and have minimul respect for Castro. The only one worth even minor consideration is Chavez, and even he's not brilliant. The ones who really deserve respect are the leaders who AREN'T famous, because they lead their countries to quiet prosperity, without conflicts or extreme laws. I don't know the name of a single premier of Canada, yet they're one of the most respected countries in the world, they're prosperous and democratic, with reasonably low crime rates and a generally liberal viewpoint.

Try explaining that to conservatives. It is so sad to see that many of them are blinded by the light and dark of extremist thinking. "Either a conservative or a communist, either a supporter of the war through thick and thin or a terrorist". What a very blinkered view of the world.

Answer 2

It is pretty silly. Dems want to try to reason with these dictators, not ignore them and possibly go to war with them. And I've certainly never heard any of them say they admired Castro or Chavez. I don't know where these ideas ever originated. It's probably the same source that started the odd-ball reasoning that said if anyone was against the war then they obviously hate America and our troops. A lot of the things they say are way off base...I've almost grown used to living with the frustration.

Answer 3

There is a lot in what you are talking about, However though Chavez is the latest focus for the twenty minutes of hate fests he is hardly of the North Korean, Stalin, or even the early Castro mold.

Like the Chinese, and Vietnamese, Castro has changed a great deal, It is only the Miami Cuban community that has made it impossible for the American press to report what the rest of the world figured out long ago.

At this point Chavez is more democratic than a very long list of Oil Puppets before him, and only that has made him Bush's Enemy. There is no flotilla of refugees, like with Cuba and Viet Nam, anyone can come or go as they wish.

And while there is a retaking of national resources that had been hijacked, and some land reform, there is no broad collectivization of even the farms, so Chavez is no Communist in the Ho Chi Min, Pol Pot, Kim Chung IL, Lenin, Stalin, Mao mold that is far more fascist than liberal.

That Chavez has taken on Bush like executive powers, liberals are as disquieted by it as they are of Bush, though Bush has proved far less trustworthy.

Cons cognitive distortions, at least the ones not disingenuous, stem from a well researched pathology referred to as Right Wing Authoritarianism (RWA) that itself often stems from child abuse, and even speaks from models of the abusive father family.

Answer 4

Castro's Celebrity Fan Club
By Sterling Rome
CNSNews.com Commentary
May 01, 2003

Stephen Spielberg called his recent meeting with Fidel Castro "the eight most important hours of my life." Barbara Walters has fawningly described "the great things" Castro had done "for education."

And just as Castro begins his most severe campaign against free speech in Cuba in decades, Yoko Ono and VIPs of the New York media are set to spend $6,500 a person to meet with him.

One of the founders of the Varela Project, Oswaldo Paya, was summoned by Jimmy Carter during his recent visit to Cuba as proof that the ex-president was "allowed freedom of movement" by the Castro regime. The silence from Carter as Paya and the brave Cubans behind his movement have been summarily jailed and silenced is deafening.


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=\Commentary\archive\200305\COM20030501a.html

Answer 5

looks as though a lot of people who spoke back don't be conscious of which component to their bread is buttered. It figures. can not assume lots from Obama supporters, or Obama..........it is a lot stable. we can assume a lot of undesirable yet to come back. As between the regulars here on YA often says, 'Obama isn't my fault'. u . s . a . desires our prayers desperately. might the Lord Himself detect the hidden works of darkness in our government, and can God bless u . s . a . as quickly as back.

Answer 6

And Pat Robertson and the late Reverend Falwell said 9/11 was God's punishment on America. So people like Sean Penn and Danny Glover and Robertson and Falwell say dumb things. Do conservatives agree with Robertson and Falwell? Probably not, hopefully not. Some folks just like to draw very iffy conclusions. It's easier than discussing things.

Answer 7

Chavez is smart enough to put government in control of oil. Say what you will, he provided free oil to the poor in New England. I don't admire him or any of the others. In fact I have never put a US leader into that category of despots until George W. Bush stumbled into the White House. Heck, Nixon was an angel compared to Bush's dirty tricks revealed, and yet to be revealed. My father's buried in Arlington National Cemetery, I give money to to the War Vets, I'm a proud Democrat , recovering ex-GOP, would fight for the right to bear arms, and I want stronger immigration laws. I also savor the truth and that's why I get into vitriolic arguments with the GOP trolls that force feed the Fox News talking points
to the peeps here.

Answer 8

The problem is extremist views in either direction. While I do not agree with much of what these people say, they have valid points on some issues. Throwing all of their viewpoints to the winds because we don't agree on all of them is shortsighted and self defeating.

Answer 9

I praise Chavez for using oil revenue to cut poverty in half in Venezuela and stating that the oil under the people`s feet belongs to the people and no profit is made and the private corporations only get the oil out of the ground for the people.

Answer 10

Hillary can you say re education camps
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070728/ap_o...

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." (Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 28, 2004, in San Francisco at a Democrat Party fundraiser)

"I want to take those profits and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us toward the direction of independence." (Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - February 2, 2007, at DNC Winter Meeting - regarding profits earned by oil companies, which are not [yet] owned by the government)

"As president I know I can't kill, jail or occupy every nation we don't agree with and I cannot just wish that all the terrorists be wiped off the face of the Earth" (Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - February 10, 2007, at a campaign appearance in New Hampshire)

"We're going to change the way we finance the system by taking away money from people who are doing well now" — (Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton — March 24, 2007, at a health care forum in Las Vegas)