Why SEC fans have so much beef with USC and the PAC 10?

Question

I mean all i've been seing, is the PAC 10 is soft and weaks. USC is suck this suck that, what is the problem SEC fan, you tell me. Heck alot of the fans say USC don't deserved the split title of 03, LSU the real champ. Why the crying and dissing on USC and the PAC 10. Explains please.

Answer 1

The SEC fans live in the past. They think that their teams are still the best but they don't realize that the rest of the country caught up with them and lots have past them. Many SEC fans slam the PAC schedule but don't realize what the schedule rankings are for 2000 to 2006. Here is a little break down.

Schedule Point System
1. USC 432
2. Stanford 423
3. UCLA 409
4. Arizona 407
5. Washington 406
6. Notre Dame 395
7. Florida St. 393
8. California 393
9. Oregon 388
10. Washington St. 382.7
11. Arizona St. 382.4
12. North Carolina 375
13. Colorado 374
14. Michigan 373
15. Oregon St 373

For those who cant count, thats all ten PAC10 teams in the top 15! So who's the tougher conference? Dont feel bad, two SEC teams made the top 20. Georgia (18) and Tennessee (20). LSU, to save you the embarrassment, I won't mention that you are #42. Oops! I've said too much.

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Now we've just compared rankings after games were played to rankings that are guesses.

Answer 2

I don't think anyone will argue that USC is an elite team deserving of the accolades they receive.

The thing that gets brought up all the time is the schedule and perceived power and depth of the conference. Playing teams ranked in the Top 25 week in and week out is the norm for SEC Conference play. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely a few teams in the SEC that are traditionally bad, but I would argue there are more teams like that in the PAC 10. Even those bad teams in the SEC tend to play a physical brand of football and will take something out of other SEC teams.

If you look at the USA Today top 25 poll released today you will find:

PAC 10:
#1 USC (congratulations)
#12 Cal
#17 UCLA
Oregon St. & Oregon receives some votes. Arizona & Wazzou each receive 1 vote

SEC:
#2 LSU
#3 Florida
#13 Georgia
#14 Auburn
#15 Tennessee
#20 Arkansas
South Carolina just missed the poll, Alabama receives some votes and even Kentucky gets 1 vote

Seems a little lopsided in favor of the SEC to me.

As an Alabama fan, we are playing 5 of those ranked teams. Add in Florida State (#21) and Houston (who is one of those teams at the bottom getting a few votes) and that is one dang tough schedule.

That is a fairly normal SEC schedule for any team in the conference. Add a conference championship game against usually another top 10 team for a SEC team that wants to win the conference.

I would also say the venues are much tougher in the SEC. From watching some Pac 10 games, I would say Oregon has the most ruckus crowd but that would be about average in a SEC stadium.

Answer 3

The SEC fans are jealous of USC's success the past 4-5 years and that's the only angle they have against them.

What about last years 50-14 win by USC AT Arkansas? Didn't ARK play in the SEC title game? USC also rolled them the year before 70-17 and led at halftime by 50. The other memorable USC vs. SEC game was when they stomped on Auburn (at their place) 23-0 when the Tigers were considered a national title contender.

Yes, the Pac 10 is not as deep from top to bottom as the SEC, but playing at venues like Oregon and Arizona State are no easy games. Plus SC plays Notre Dame every year which is always a tough game, and UCLA always gets up for them.

Answer 4

The SEC is the more physical conference, which makes every week tough. The PAC 10 has softer teams in the conference, so USC wasn't challenged as much during their championship run than Florida was last year. Most people didn't think Florida had a chance against Ohio St because Florida had closer games of common opponent. Since their schedule was tougher it was easy to have a let down on one or two weeks during the season.

Answer 5

It is because the PAC 10 IS soft and weak. Aside from USC who everyone does give credit to, the rest of the teams just arent nearly on the same level. In the SEC most of the teams are really good, with great speed and defenses. USC's stats are always inflated by playing inferior competition. USC should basicaly never lose more than one game a year, and that being to an out of conference team or the occasional upset. In the SEC it is very rare for a team to go undefeated because all the teams are so good. If you have never been to an SEC game or around the atmosphere you just could never understand I guess. So hop on USC's bandwagon it is an easy thing to do.

Answer 6

Hey, great job Tennessee, in that bowl game against my Nittany Lions. BTW, Penn State is 8-3 in bowl games against SEC opponents. We LOVE the SEC here at Penn State.
Its not USC's fault the Pac 10 is not as good as the SEC. USC schedules non-conference games like Notre Dame, Auburn and Arkansas, and wins them most of the time. Florida schedules the worst 1-AA team in the country, Western Carolina(I know, the game was scheduled years ahead, who knew?) and it counts. Congratulations to Florida for winning the BCS championship. But shouldn't division 1 teams be PUNISHED in the polls by beating a 1-AA team. not rewarded? 1-AA gets less scholarships, clearly an inferior brand of Footbal to div 1. Why can't Florida schedule some mid-level MAC school, like Akron, or Bowling Green? Jeez, anything but 1-AA. Same with OSU and PSU. Take YOungstown State off your schedules.

Answer 7

I am an SEC fan that believes USC deserves to be considered among the elite teams and I believe Pete Carroll is a class act. I also agree that the SEC teams play a much harder schedule and have an intensity at their stadiums that are unmatched in college football. The arrogance that Cal showed prior to their game against Tennessee last year showed a lack of respect and they were rewarded with an SEC beat down in front of 106,000 rabid Vols fans. Cal was arguably the second best team in the PAC 10 and they were blown out by a mid level SEC team. You just can't prepare for 106,000 rabid Vols fans in Neyland Stadium when your biggest rivalry is Stanford.

Answer 8

No one denies that USC is great, but most conferences have at least 5 teams that would finish second if they were in the Pac 10.

Answer 9

I'm not even a fan of any SEC team, but I'll take a crack at this: USC is just plain arrogant. As usual, those around the program are again talking all kinds of smack like they're all ready to be crowned national champs w/o even having played a game yet. Most of the sports media adds to this because USC are the darlings of the Hollyweird set, now that they're good. That's right, I said they're good, but they certainly aren't unbeatable. I'd really like to see how many "fans" they'd have if they suffered just one losing season.

Answer 10

It's simple - success breeds contempt.

USC has been basking out in the sun the past few years, winning games and championships. Fans of the SEC - with the probable exception now of Florida fans - are obviously jealous of that success. I'm a fan of an ACC team, and lord knows I'd love to have USC's success in recruiting and winning games.

There's also a little bit of brainwashing that has gone on to convince all fans that the SEC is so much stronger and faster than any other conference that it's impossible for others to compete. The SEC is an amazing conference, likely the best in the country, but they need to just be happy with that and not sweat what everyone else is doing.