how come they are the only Michelin team from all of the other teams who used Michelin tyres for the last 4 or so years. to have adapted to the bridgestone tyre so quickly and they are better than any of the other Michelin teams in the past?
Renault nowhere this year ,ex Michelin runner
Honda nowhere this year, ex Michelin runner
mclaren not that fast last year but very fast this year.
Ferrari bridgestone runners for god knows how long and even in theory they should have had alot more knowledge over mclaren over tyre wear etc, even if the tyre are totally new this year.
maybe there is more to this saga than we are being told?
agree ,disagree i would love to know the reason and so would Renault because they have problems adapting to this year bridgestone tyre?
2007-08-03 10:21:17 · 9 answers · asked by Just for Laughs 4 in Sports ➔ Auto Racing ➔ Formula One
Exactly.
They are involved in the Ferrari car stolen information controversy. It is possible that they got Ferrari's information on the Bridgestone tyres and adapted to the tyre changes immediately.
Yes, most teams are dealing with the tyre change this year and for example, Renault are definitely doing very poorly this year. Okay, Ferrari should have more knowledge on the tyres and should be able to come up with a faster car than McLaren's.
But the thing is, when the stolen information gets into McLaren's hands, they can easily compare the data with their current car and make improvements. Ferrari on the other hand only have their own car data and not any other team's. So, they wouldn't know their weaknesses as much as McLaren would know theirs.
Clearly, McLaren are having the upper hand because they know all about Ferrari's car and the Bridgestone tyres. This is VERY unfair for Ferrari and in my opinion, the FIA shouldn't just let McLaren get away with this.
2007-08-04 23:34:03 · answer #1 · answered by , 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, I think Honda's problems came from apparently hiring a designer with no F1 design experience. A shocking decision by Honda which has produced a truly awful car.
Renault lost Alonso and Mclaren gained Alonso so it's fair to argue that Alonso could be an excellent driver with respects to actually testing and helping to develop a car.
Also, teams would have known about the switch to bridgestones a long time before it happened so mclaren could have started designs early to help offset the lull in form they were having.
Plus to whoever said Mclaren have been slow or nowhere on Michelin's tyres.......they've still been race winners over the past few years, but a combination of Montoya's lack of finesse in an F1 car and Kimi's inconsistency as a driver probably didn't do them many favours.
2007-08-04 03:50:53 · answer #2 · answered by q 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is a case of McLaren working harder to adapt. Also, for all we know, they could have made a hiring over the winter or even last year that helped them work on adapting to the different tyres. And, there was a time when Goodyear pulled out and Bridgestone was then the only tyre manufacturer; as much as tyres have changed, McLaren had used Bridgestone tyres in the past. They simply could have made better records to help in development. Often it is said that teams benefit from past experience, this could be a case of it.
Honda is just out to lunch this year, sadly.
Renault remember pondered the future of their role in the sport last year, they're perhaps not as committed as McLaren and thus a little behind?
Some thoughts, at least.
RP
2007-08-03 11:42:43 · answer #3 · answered by R P 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Interesting point. I hadn't thought of it that way. Although if they had received information about the tyres then there rapid adaption to the Bridgestone's would surely have been seen as evidence that the info was used. Since they went unpunished I would like to believe that this isn't the case.
2007-08-03 12:31:48 · answer #4 · answered by Prisoner000001 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Somebody else already said it, the chassis-specific tire days are over, so everyone is using the same spec tires. Obviously they work better for some than others. But Renault and Honda have more problems than tires -- although Renault seems to be getting a handle on it somewhat lately.
2007-08-04 07:37:02 · answer #5 · answered by Ben 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
agreed,
ferrari used to be the closest in business relations to bridgestone, especially in the last few years when it became the only top 5 team to partner the japanese manufacturer. but now, its a level playing field, and suddenly mclaren are BETTER than ferrari?? surely a few average performances by mclaren would not cause suspicion, but they have just been TOO good this season.
2007-08-03 16:22:45 · answer #6 · answered by 1023vw 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
disagreed
during the tire wars the tire companies were building tires for each individual team the reason ferrari were so dominant was because they had their tire guy working at bridgestone
to make ferrari tires, the ferrari tire was nothing like the minardi tire, thats all over now, bridgestone is bringing 4 spec tires in each weekend it might as well be like a whole news tire company
2007-08-03 10:35:55 · answer #7 · answered by eyesinthedrk 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Agreed.
Renault's problems were more to do with losing the driver that their car was built around, and having to make it legal after all the mass damper issues last year.
2007-08-03 10:26:56 · answer #8 · answered by 'Dr Greene' 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Good points, mclaren have been slow for years and now they are very fast compared to renault.
how do you prove it ,i don't think you can!
2007-08-03 22:38:17 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋