CARLOS TEVEZ...What the hell is going on?

Question

There's two major things that I can't get my head around with this Carlos Tevez transfer saga...

1) Why are they (Man Utd) having to pay MSI £10million when we were told, by West ham, that there was no third party arrangement

and secondly...

2) Why should Man Utd have to give anything to MSI?

If having a player's economic rights owned by a third party is illegal...then technically they shouldn't have to pay MSI anything!

Please help.

Answer 1

If there is a third parrty arrangement then West Ham should have been relegated, simple as that.

It is a very complicated transfer but sadly I feel that even if Man U are guilty of any wrongdoing in the affair they will get away with it just like when they tapped up Stam and Hargreaves.

Answer 2

The stench from the whole affair is over powering, what I,d like to know is what card has Joorabchian got that he didn,t show at the enquiry into this stinking mess. Whatever it is, the threat of it coming out in court certainly changed west ham,s attitude towards things, the longer it goes on the smellier it gets.



Joorabchian is reputed to have said that if it went to court he would reveal more than already has been revealed
at which point as I have already said whu backed off.
I am only going by what I read in the press, maybe some people on here are better connected.
It,s also funny how the hammers now see Joorabchian and Tevez as the villians of this soap opera and not the main two actors in their dodgy survival.

It,s also comforting to know that it wasn,t about money, that settles that then.

Like I said the longer it goes the smellier it gets, however this kind of dragging the beautiful through the mud will always have a bigger impact on fans of the game rather than the fans of a particular club, shame really.

Answer 3

The thing that was wrong with the Tevez saga wasn´t that he was owned by a third party, but the fact that the third party held influence over when he was sold. He was still owned by a third party, just the clause that gave the third party influence over when he was sold was deemed invalid by West Ham, hence all this recent debacle.

The whole thing is stupid anyway and has really been blown out of all proportion. The original agreement with West Ham ( pre Eggert.) was that Jokerbum could sell Tevez during any transfer window giving West Ham £2m for the january window, and £100k for subsequent ones.Hardly crime of the century.

The idea behind the U18 ruling was to prevent third parties from being able to influence clubs policies and the running of such. Now where having Tevez can influence the running of our club, even with the added clause, other than the possibility of not having him come january etc, i am at a loss.

It could be argued that the very fact that Jokerbum can decide that he will not play for us after january is the influence he can use. It is really nothing more than a glorified loan deal,like i said, hardly crime of the century, but that really doesn´t excuse the fact that Brown entered into it presumably knowing it was against PL regulations.

I think you will find, and i´m not 100% on this, that Man utd have a given time frame on this so influence in Tevez´s removal is not there. West Hams could be at any time.

Added. Jokerbum never had a card to play otherwise he would have played it a long time ago. We got exactly what we wanted, rid of Tevez with the PL´s blessing. It was never about money as some of you believe,and will probably continue to do so.

Added. Maybe this helps Osprey

"Jorabchian's lawyers say the Dec 1 contract proves Magnusson and the club agreed to let the player go once the season ended.

But, in a fascinating new twist, West Ham insist that, although the document has now been signed by Joorabchian and Tevez, it was not signed in December, meaning it was invalid.

West Ham add that the unsigned document was sent to the Premier League in February, and that the signed version of the contract only emerged in June.

Their line is backed by the Premier League, who say they received an "unexecuted" copy of the contract ahead of the independent commission which fined West Ham £5.5 million for breaking rules on third-party ownership in April.

Yesterday, as a three-day injunction hearing to establish if Tevez can move to United was set for Aug 22, it was confirmed that the 23-year-old player will himself be called to give evidence in the case. He is expected to be cross-examined on exactly when the contract was signed.

Now you can read in that what you will, but the fact that Jokerbum decided not to go to court speaks volumes. West Ham were happy to but preferred to settle out of court. We got £1,900,000 more than we would have had the clause been adhered to. We could have got more going to court, but like i said......

Answer 4

It does appear dodgy, and to make matters worse west Ham are being paid compensation to 'release' him but then Man u are only getting him on a two year loan deal, loan from who? which means he''ll still be owned by a third party, so will Man u get into trouble the same as West Ham did.. My brain hurts.

Answer 5

The whole episode stinks, and I wonder if it had been a clun like Reading or Derby trying to sign him if this compromise would have been struck.

Just because its Manchester United its seems everyone has has bent over backwards to accomodate them.

One minute Ferguson is concerned about Tevez right to play for who he wants, but then he is preventing Heinze doing the same. He is nothing but a two faced pillock.

Answer 6

Good luck to you mate. Him and his crook Joorabchian are Man Utd's problem now. Goodbye, see you on the pitch.

Answer 7

Good riddance to the traitor Tevez.I hope he flunks at Man Ure.

Answer 8

i think he is over rated. ok he stood out of the west ham team but can't see why united brought him

Answer 9

funnier then hell!!!! i watch him each and every of the time. me and my acquaintances also have a menica evening have been its all menica each and every of the time!!!! i like it 2 how he rags on each and every person no longer in basic terms some ppl!!!

Answer 10

The thing that most disturbs me, is that I have to look at his ugly mug every morning. I wish they would wrap the whole thing up so I could stop choking on my corn-flakes.