Harry Potter 7 - Ending Questions (*SPOILERS*)?

Question

(SPOILER ALERT!!!)

Ok, so i just finished the last HP book and i am a little confused about a few things at the end:

1. What is the deal with Voldemort Killing Harry and then Harry Killing Voldemort - i mean, i understand that Harry can't die when voldemort is still alive, but at the same time, when volemort dies isn't harry supposed to die with him as well? 'one can't live while the other survives'? I understand that lily's protection is still in voldemorts blood but that protects voldemort than too, doesn't it? and didn't that expire anyways??? im majorly confused, even thou i re-read ending twice

2. how is malfoy the owner of the elder wand? he never stole it from dumbledore..? or am i missing something?

3. so you have to kill the last owner to be the true master of elder's wand, right? so how the hell is grindewald still alive in his prison and dumbledore is the new owner?; also, how did he win the duel if the elder wand was stronger than his own?

thanks!

Answer 1

1. Voldemort made a serious mistake when he took Harry's blood. In essence he made himself akin to a horcrux for Harry. By taking Harry's blood, he can now touch Harry, but he also made it so that as long as he lives Harry can choose whether to live or die should he be killed. When Harry met Dumbledore at King's Cross Station (which I see their meeting as being at a point between the mortal realm and the spirit realm, a point where the near dead and the dead who have crossed over, can meet), Dumbledore explained that Voldemort's having Harry's blood in him ties Harry to life very much like Voldemort's horcruxes do the same for him. But Harry had the choice to continue the fight or "board a train" as Dumbledore put it. In otherwords, Harry could choose to pass on into the spirit realm, to truely die.

Voldemort, on the other hand, required a piece of him to remain in the mortal realm to tie him to it. That's why he was making his horcruxes. Even though his physical body is a piece of him, it's not enough. He needs a bit of his soul or blood that has been wrongly taken to reamain. So he made horcruxes, six intentional and an unintential seventh. Had Harry managed to destroy the six intentional horcruxes, Voldemort could still have returned from the dead due to the fact that he, Harry, was the unintentional horcrux. But Voldemort destroyed the horcrux when he killed Harry. So there was no longer a part of him in Harry. Harry's blood could not tie him to the mortal realm after Nagini, the last horcrux to be destroyed, was killed. It was Harry's, not his.

2. Malfoy did not have to steal the Elder wand in order to become it's master. And he was only it's master, but never it's owner. The night Dumbledore died, he disarmed him before Dumbledore had the chance to fight him. When Dumbledore died, as planned by himself and Snape, the wand's allegiance was given to the last person to defeat him. That person was Draco Malfoy.

3. No, see what I said above. While throughout history most of it's new owners had killed the previous owner to become the wand's master, the wand gives it's allegiance to the last person to defeat it's current master at the time.

Gergorovitch seems to have been the wand's master at the time Grindelwald stole it from him, and Grindelwald's stunning spell may have been how he defeated him. Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald and the wand swore allegiance to him. It doesn't matter that the Elder wand is supposed to be the most powerful wand, Dumbledore was the more skilled dueler and most likely he either stunned or disarmed and stunned Grindelwald in the end.

Answer 2

Voldemort casts the Killing Curse on Harry but Harry doesn't actually die, because Harry is a Horcrux that Voldemort unintentionally created the first time he tried to kill him. Lily's protection lifts off Harry when he leaves the Dursleys' home, because it's a place he "no longer calls home". When Harry kills Voldemort, he fulfills the prophecy that "one cannot live while the other survives", i.e. only one of them may live.

Malfoy gains ownership of the Elder Wand when he disarms Dumbledore in HP 6. Then Harry disarms Malfoy, thereby gaining ownership of the wand, which means that although Voldemort removes the wand from Dumbledore's grave, he is not the rightful owner, and the owner is Harry, because the wand knows this.

You do not have to kill the owner of the Elder Wand, you only have to "win over" him in some manner. So even though Grindelwald is alive, Dumbledore had DEFEATED him in the duel, thus becoming the owner of the Elder Wand. I guess Dumbledore was a better wizard (as Hermione says, a wand is only as good as the wizard) and so defeated Grindelwald. And remember, this is how the wand's been passed on, duels were fought over it and the winner kept the wand.

Answer 3

1. The reason why Harry didn't die when Voldemort died is because when Voldemort hit Harry with the killing curse in the forest the first time, he merely destroyed his bit of soul in Harry. Voldemort knocked them both unconscious. That baby creature thing that was on the floor when Harry was talking to Dumbledore in his mind was the bit of Voldemort's soul that was attached to him. The killing curse broke the connection between Harry and Voldemort--that's why one could die now while the other one lived.

When Voldemort rebuilt his body in book 4 with Harry's blood, Harry's mother's blood in Voldemort protected Harry from Voldemort as long as Voldemort lived.

By the same token, Voldemort's bit of soul in Harry would not let Voldemort die as long as Harry live. Remember, Voldemort unknowingly created a horcrux in Harry when he was a baby.

This is what the prophesy meant when it said one could not live while the other survives. But as I previously said, the killing curse in the forest broke this connection.

2. Malfoy was the owner of the wand because he disarmed Dumbledore in book 6 when Dumbledore and Harry returned from getting the fake locket. But Malfoy never knew anything about the wand being the Elder wand.

3. According to Ollivander in The Wandmaker chapter, you don't have to kill a person to become the owner of a wand. You just have to take it by force. He also said in book 1 that the wand chooses the wizard.

Grindewald never took it by force. He stole the wand from the person who made the wand, Gregovitch. When Dumbledore beat Gridenwald in their duel, Dumbledore became the master of the wand.

Finally, Voldemort was able to die at the end because all 7 of the horcruxes and thus all 7 pieces of his soul had been destroyed. Neville destroyed the 7th bit in the snake when he killed it.

Harry didn't kill Voldemort. Voldemort's second killing curse backfired and killed him.
The Elder Wand recognized Harry as the rightful owner of it and refused to kill its master.

Answer 4

1.well to the first part u are wrong about harry cant die when voldemort is still alive he can die(neither can live while the other survives) it doesnot mean that if one dies so does the other. harry only came bak becauce voldemort destroyed the horcrux in harry wen he killed him.

2. one does not have to kill someone to become the owner of the others wand they have to defeat him. in the sixth book malfoy is the one who deeats dumbledore and thus becomes the owner of the wand. even though snape was the one who killed him , malfoy had already disarmed dumbledore.

3. as i said before you dont have to kill to become the owner of the wand thats the reason why grindeald is still alive. and to the second part dumbledore probably won cuz he was more skillful. and grindewald had stolen the wand so maybe the wand didnt work all that rite for him.

Answer 5

1. Well yeah, harry can't live while Voldemort survives, so harry lives in the end when Voldy dies. I think you kinda misunderstood the Prophecy. Maybe you should read the end of Book Six again.

2. Yes you missed something. READ THE BOOK! It says you have to actually win the wand. So Malfoy did "expelliarmus" to Dumbledore at the end of book 6, so his wand wins over Dumbledore's. You can't gain the power by stealing it, it's not done that way.

3. Dumbledore has won in the duel that's why he now as the power, because his wand has defeated the owner of the elder wand.

No offence, but you should seriously read the book more closely.

Answer 6

You forgot that Albus Dumbledore is a powerful wizard so that's why he defeated Gridewald!!!No you don't have to kill someone to take his wand and you would have known that if you have read the book more carefully. Malfoy is the owner of the wand because when Snape killed Dumbledore with Avanda Kedavra, the killing curse it was as Malfoy had done it cause Snape promised to help Malfoy kill Dumbledore when Narkisa persuade him to it at the beginning of the book 6. So when harry took Malfoy's wand it was as he was taking the elder wand , I think. The elder wand may be a powerful wand but it is still a wand.

Answer 7

"one can't live while the other survives." Was referring to the last Horcrux, meaning Harry got a piece of Voldemort, meaning for Harry to live, he'd have to kill Voldemort and kill the last Horcrux.

Malfoy wasn't the owner, Harry thought he was...Harry is the owner of the Elder wand because the guy who made it, or whatever, was related to him.
I cannot say about Dumbledore being the master of the elder wand, because it didn't make since to me either, but, I don't think Grendelwald really knew it was the elder wand and Dumbledore did...

I hope I helped!

Answer 8

When Voldemort went to kill Harry he only killed the part of himself that was 'stored' in Harry (because Harry was a Horcrux..that was accidentally made when Voldemort killed Harry's parents and then tried to kill Harry..he left a part of his soul in Harry)...so that 'baby thing' that was there when Harry was talking to Dumbledor was the part of Voldemort's soul that he just killed. (Nagini the snake was the last Horcrux left and that is why Voldemort didnt die right away).

Okay...Voldemort took that wand from Draco to go and kill Harry and so the elder wand then became Draco's.

I hope this makes sense.

Answer 9

1. It's the whole love thing again; he was willing to sacrafice himself to save a whole world of people, he had conquered death because he no longer feared it. I don't know what the long term consequences are to that, I would imagine that when it is time for him to die, an old man surrounded by happy, well fed grandchildren, he will, quietly and peacefully "easier then going to sleep". 2. No. It was an in-between place, hence the whole train station motif; he could board a train and go forward (one would presume to heaven) or he could decide to return and keep fighting the good fight. Dumbledore was there because he needed to be there, but that was as close to the living world as he could get (at least, I would imagine). Basically, Harry had a near death experience. 3. That was the part of Voldemort that had slipped inside Harry when Harry was a baby. That was why it was so gross and Dumbledore said it was beyond saving, he never says that about anything.

Answer 10

voldemort kills the horcrux that is inside harry leaving harry still alive.

malfoy was the one that disarmed dumbledoe.

you can also win the elder wand by winning a duel or taking tha other persons wand.