Did you know Bush as of July 17, 2007 has made opposing the war in Iraq a criminal act?

Question

Here research this yourself.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/383238766.html

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070717-3.html

Can we let this administration do this?

Call your local state government offices!
Your Congressmen.
Your Senators.
Your Representatives.
Your Governor.
E-mail--mail--whatever!

This is outrageous!!

So some of you are willing to allow this administration determine what is protest and what is threatening stabilization efforts????

Are you joking?

This is the same administration that said Gonzo wasn't lying in his testimony before Congress the other day......they said the TSP program wasn't called the TSP program when Gonzo went to Ashcroft's sickbed and that's where the confusion came into play!!!

Yeah...OK!

These people are experts at mincing words!!

Are you willing to allow U.S. citizens to be caught up in this for using the constitutionally protected and provided 1st amendment?

Answer 1

Miss Kelly, you are now officially a liar, and your question is a complete lie.

The White House link you provided says nothing about making anyone "opposing the war in Iraq a criminal act."

It does talk about the following kinds of people and events:

"(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order."

So, Miss Kelly, you are either a liar of evil proportion, or completely nuts, just like jim c,

Answer 2

No -- he really hasn't.

He just activated a federal law passed a few years ago -- 50 U.S.C. 1701 -- and that law does not allow the interpretation that you are citing.

The clause in the executive order that people object to as vague is "undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people".

Which could be interpreted to including anyone opposing the Iraq occupation. But the underlying statute does not allow that interpretation -- for once, Congress wasn't stupid.

So, Bush may very well do what you are suggesting -- but it will not be a legal action under the existing statute. Not that breaking the law has ever stopped him before.

Answer 3

Bush may think that he has made opposing the war in Iraq a criminal act but I believe the Declaration Of Independence provides the following:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

I believe that law he signed making opposing the war a criminal act was meant for the normal honest citizen who will not admit that they oppose the war and thus the Poll results will be different. It will never hold up in Court.

I believe that part of his many mental issues is that he has no Patriotic Ethics:
"The primary implication of patriotism in ethical theory is that a person has more moral duties to fellow members of the national community."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism

The president is destroying some of the symbols of patriotism. He is making the public ashamed to admit that they are Americans and I don't see as many American flags flying as I had before Bush stole the position as president when he was appointed president with the Florida voter fraud in the 2000 presidential election. You may recall that his brother Jeb Bush was governor of Florida at that time.
http://www.lumpen.com/coup2k/coup2k-all.html

Answer 4

Face it dumpling, the American Admin as it is now just does what it wants and to heck with legality!. Yes, some say this is not a very big issue, but with this government, you don't need a big issue to end up in deep doo doo.

Yes, the law is there, but what are laws if not for breaking? Or so these thugs would have you think.... so long as they do the breaking...

Answer 5

He has done nothing of the sort. There is a massive difference between opposing the war and saying so on the one hand, and threatening the stabilization of Iraq.
There is no attack on freedom of speech here.
Bush has so many faults and much that is valid to criticize - we do not need to invent nonsense like this. This is the sort of garbage I expect from the "attack Clinton crowd". Try to rise above that level.

Answer 6

Chill out. Buchaney will probably fire even more US attorneys so there won't be federal prosecutors left to enforce the E.O.

Answer 7

IT is outrageous. GOd I hope with everything and I am trying to get Ron Paul elected so we can have our liberties the way it was meant to be!!!!

Wake Up Sheeple. Wake Up.

Thanks

Answer 8

It's only if you aid and abet terrorists, not protest the war. If protesting was illegal then Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore would be begging on the streets right now. Sorry, but you are not strong with the propoganda.

Answer 9

Yes, I do remember reading something about that! Scary stuff! *sm*

Answer 10

While you you were being indoctrinated, you should have insisted they teach you to actually read the articel, before posting. Nothing in this law says you cannot oppose the war.