Russia and the North Pole sea bed. it has stuff to do with OIL, yes OIL.?

Question

what do you all think about russia claiming to to own the oil in the north pole becos they got there first and put their flag there, just as the U.S. got on the moon first and put its flag on it too?

do you think the U.S. owns the moon and does russia own the north pole sea bed?

and do you think the U.S. should go fight for its portion especially now that we are oil adicts?

Answer 1

If others can't take it from them...

Answer 2

I don't think the US owns or claims the moon, and the US flag was planted by the USA at the North Pole (on the surface and by ship/Nautilus, it was not for ownership, it was to say that explorers from this country got there first. However the possibility of colonization does have some countries racing to get to Mars and that could as easily become a war, there certainly is sabotage and espionage being carried out right between rival space programs right now.
As for a war with Russia, remember the USA (via Alaska, which Russia is still whining about), Canada and at least Denmark (via Greenland) also have as legitimate a claim to the North Pole. I think it should be the same as the South Pole. Too bad we didn't have a UN that was worth the money they get from US taxpayers, they should administer the fuel reserves, oilfield leases, etc. and use that money for international aid (instead of money from US taxpayers). If you think about it, all the flags flown on Mt. Everest doesn't make that the property of those countries.
Putin has dreams of Stalin or Frederick The Great or Peter or something, since the nuclear arsenal couldn't do it alone, and trying to prevent a missile defense shield that is just going to protect Europe from Mediterannean/Middle East threats (and not a threat to Russia, except it interferes with Russia's threat against Europe) has failed, this is a new bluff. Remeber we US taxpayers have given billions of dollars in aid in recent decades, just like we did in WW2 and in WW1, they are great at either begging or threatening. They are encouraging and arming the nations who cause us problems, still playing loose with nuclear materials we gave them money to secure, and building a huge underground nuke-proof complex at Yamantau, even though most of the people in the world want nothing to do with the "Cold War", so Putin has new textbooks printed to try and create a new generation of zombies.

Answer 3

Well, we can start claiming any parts of the sea-bed that we want, but the Law of the Sea, which is probably the first international law has been on the books for about nearly years now. It's like this, if it's not above the surface, you can't claim it.

You could setup a mining colony or something underwater - ala the old show "Seaquest DSV" or something like that, but they would be in the same way like Oil Rigs or something currently. I believe that the company that sets up the rig has to abide by the laws of the country in which is incorporated, as an operating entity.

So an oil rig setup and operated by National Petroleum of Norway would follow Norse law. An oil rig setup by Exxon would follow US law, and an oil rig setup by SINOPEC would be subject to Chinese law.

So I would imagine that if the Russian Confederation or some branch of Yukos, sets up an underwater drill-rig, under the sea-ice, it would operate under Russian law.

Its also a little bit like the rules regarding kids fighting, "It's all good until someone looses an eye". Tell them there is a radioactive heap that they are responsible for cleaning up and lets see how eager they are to "claim" they own that.


In this case, calling "firsties" on the north pole is a non-sequitur, if they demonstrated some historical stewardship over the territory, perhaps it might be so.

Canada for instance , administers the islands approaching Greenland, so that would be an example of where there are large stretches of water which could be considered "Canada" but for now, they have laid claim to an area into which I suspect that the Northern Eskimo tribes may wish to retain a good international lawyer and possibly some representation at the UN, but that's just me I'm sure.

Answer 4

We'll drill for oil in ANWAR. This is most likely a dispute with Russia and Canada. The US and Norway have some minor claims to some of the arctic region, but the majority of the area will likely fall to Canada or Russia.

Answer 5

Russia claimed the seabed in North Pole for oil exploration and it is a valid claim. However, the US cannot claim the moon as its own because there is no occupation after the planting of the US flag.

Answer 6

The Russians have arrived at the North Pole first? Snicker, snicker, snicker. No wonder the Canadians are having their day!

"This isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory'," said Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay. "There is no threat to Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic ... we're not at all concerned about this mission – basically it's just a show by Russia."

Talk about a new "cold war" in the making....

1827, British naval officer William Edward Parry, reached 82° 45'
1871 American Charles Francis Hall tried to reach the North Pole but missed the spot
1895 Norwegian Fridtjof Nansen reached latitude 86° 14´ North.
1908, American Frederick Albert Cook stated that he reached the North Pole in 1908, but there's no proof that he indeed reached the correct spot
1909, American Robert Edwin Peary, who claimed to have reached the Pole but there's speculation about his methods and if he actually got them right, finding the correct spot

So who's on first?

Over the years, from 1948 to 2005, numerous people claim to have visited the correct spot, by plane, train (skytrain) and automobiles (snowmobile), and not to forget submarines and navy ships, by the Italians, Americans, British, Norwegians and Russians.

No wonder the place is melting away.

Answer 7

What is wrong with you people?
Russia was not the first to the North Pole - it is jointly owned by Canada and the USA. They have an agreement to never drill for oil nor alter the natural landscape.

Answer 8

That Russia for you, they also claim Alaska, which was their once, but they said we paid em too little for it. The also claimed that they discovered that man does not love with his heart he loves with his liver, imagine that, and they also say they invented the "hot dog", and baseball..........give me a break. North Pole was shot up North during the last catastrophic plate movement of the earth...

Putin is wanting to be KIND OF THE WORLD. Those sly KGB men!!. Just wishing they were better looking, like the Brits 007's.

Answer 9

If the US owned it, it would just set up a North Pole military defense base with missiles aimed at the rest of the world, strictly for our protection, even though it's the US that is always invading and threatening other countries...

Answer 10

Russia simply so does not apply therefore and collects proofs. And US will do as always all to prevent Russia

Answer 11

Since liberals love Russia so much because Russia was communist for so long liberals will say it's good for Russia to dril for oil anywhere they want. After all, Americans won't profit and it's good for others to profit so long as Americans are not allowed to.