What do you think of Mats Sundin?

Question

K so I live in the Toronto region so obviously i love the guy, but what do other people think of him/his skills?

Answer 1

I think Mats Sundin is a great player and most likely a future Hall of Famer. He is one of a handful (10) of players over the last 15 years to average a point of game.

Only Jagr and Sakic have made more appearances in the top 25 in scoring since Sundin entered the league.

Hardware..........there are a lot of players in the NHL Hall of Fame without hardware. Denis Savard................nothing....nada. Not even a 1st or 2nd team All-Star selection. His Stanley Cup ring? Won by being an 'assistant' coach. Dale Hawerchuk.......only thing he won was a Calder Trophy. Cam Neely has no performance based hardware. Peter Stastny only has a Calder Trophy. Bernie Federko has no hardware. Pat Lafontaine has no hardware. Darryl Sittler has no hardware.

You look at his Sundin's career totals, 6th among active players in goals, 7th among active players in assists, 6th in points (and all the players ahead of him in all categories have played more games with the exception of Jagr).

As for the previous question on this.............why is Bernie Federko in the Hall of Fame? He's 6th on the all-time assists per game list. He was the first player in NHL history to have 10 consecutive seasons of 50+ assists (and only injuries prevented it from being 11). Bernie Federko has a higher PPG than that of such Hall of Famers as Gordie Howe, Mark Messier, Ron Francis, Paul Coffey, Stan Mikita, Bryan Trottier, Gilbert Perreault, Raymond Bourque, Jari Kurri, John Bucyk, Jean Beliveau, Darryl Sittler, Bobby Clarke....and on and on. If you have a higher career PPG than Mark Messier and Gordie Howe..........I'm putting you in the Hall of Fame

Note: Only 4 players who have scored more than a point per game, and are elgible for the hall are not in
1. Bernie Nicholls (1.073)
2. Adam Oates (1.062)
3. Steve Larmer (1.006)
4. Theoron Fleury (1.004)

**Sundin is at 1.010

Of Note: Luc Robitaille, considered a sure-fire Hall of Famer is at 0.974. Dino Ciccarelli, often overlooked, is also at 0.974, and Glenn Anderson, who has all the hardware in the world is at 0.973. Jeremy Roenick is at 0.966

Answer 2

Ive been answering alot of questions, so im tired but for god sakes, here i go.

I love Mats Sundin, im a huge die hard leafs fan, and Mats Sundin Is Defenently Hall Of Fame material And i cant wait to see what happens in a few years after he retires, he has Olympic Gold, I even have a rookie card of him when he first played for the Quebec Nordiques, previously in his minor Career he played 25 games with 18 Points and 10 of them were goals and in his minor playoffs he scored 7 goals in 8 games, he was the first Eurpeon player ever get drafted number 1 in an NHL draft, He also scored his first NHL goal on his first NHL game and in his rookie season he had the second most points and goals on his team, so that goes to show, that even though he couldnt score that goal to tie Daryll Sittler and even though hes not as good as he was in his prime, he is still a necissaty to the leafs and he still deserves a nice little spot in the Hall Of Fame.

Answer 3

Anyone who has ever played the game knows Mats is an amazing player, and still is when he's injury free.

As far as the Hall of Fame goes, it can be tricky because they only let in a couple of players a year.

But Dick Duff just got in the hall a few years ago, and Matts is ten times the player Duff was.


Hey, I can't believe they censored the short form for "Richard Duff"!!

Answer 4

I think he's a good player, but not anything close to a Hall of Famer. Try this: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Atx_Q8czbWiwqwt7YeJRJQEjzKIX?qid=20070531113228AA1he6u

An addendum: Mats Sundin is a good player, make no mistake about it. My biggest issue with Sundin is that he was a good player in an era of other good players. Would I dare say that someone like Sergei Federov was a better player than Sundin? No (to an extent, because from 1993-1997 Federov was much better than Sundin), hardware notwithstanding. Federov did more for his team as a second line center than Sundin did as a first line center. Would I put Federov in the Hall of Fame? That's a tougher question to answer. Federov has not done anything in his career since he left Detroit (and lest it be said he hasn't done anything since signing that offer sheet with the Hurricanes 10 years ago, and holding out for most of a season while doing that).

Answer 5

Mats is a great guy, a community guy, and will someday be in the Hockey Hall of Fame. A couple of other posters provided ample evidence so no need to go over it again.

With regards to Snoop's previous question on this topic..........Anybody who questions why Bernie Federko is in the Hockey Hall of Fame...........never saw him play. He was one of the 10 best players in the 80s (2nd in assists over that period) and definitely deserves to be there. It's too bad the Hall of Fame committee spent the 90s bickering instead of putting players in the Hall.

Answer 6

I disagree. He is a great player and a Hall of Famer. He would have been even better if, as Puckdat pointed out, he had some wingers.
Sidney Crosby has called him the absolute toughest guy to play against.

500 goals-1200 points- and he does have hardware in the form of Olympic Gold AND he is still playing.

Answer 7

I think Mats has had to carry the hopes and dreams of millions of Leaf fans by himself for far too long. Give him two good wingers who are legitimate first line players and he will rack up 90+points. He's a real trooper. He doesn't sit unless the team doctor makes him. He has a lot of heart and leads by example on the ice.

Answer 8

Mats should be in the Hall of Fame, for being the first European born and trained player drafted first overall

Answer 9

I see him on the Rangers: because of the fact Vancouver hasn't spent that form of money on all people (that i be attentive to of - admittingly i do no longer watch the salaries as heavily as a number of you), yet i be attentive to that Gainey will hesitate to spend 8M on an starting to be previous premadonna, and he has too lots of an ego to proceed to be a Leaf. yet another difficulty which you men seem to forget, is that the two he and Koivu are used to being in can charge. regardless of in the event that they have performed their NHL careers in Canada, there remains great national satisfaction at stake. (Koivu being a Finn, and Mats a Swede)

Answer 10

you've had some good answers w/ good reasons and a lot of stats.

Mats is good in my book. great player. helped pave the way for other Europeans to have a chance. he'll be in the hall. sometimes has been given a thankless job. seems pretty classy to me. lotsa heart.