Do homosexuals have the right to be married?

Question

The Bible says we are going to be condemed for a lot of things we do, but that doesn't mean we should deny our citizens rights.
Should we ban marriage for those who have commited adultury? Or....... ? pick any sin.
I'm a conservative and I don't like when libs take away my rights, so I try to be careful not to take away others rights. We live in America, where people have rights, even those whose behavior I don't necessarily agree with.
And libs, would you be so kind as to do the same? If you think something is a good idea, great, feel good about choosing it for your life. But let me do the same for mine. Don't force your idea on me just because you think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

If I were a liberal I would be forcing my views on others.

We don't need an ammendment

Answer 1

that's a very good point.

here's to States Rights !

Answer 2

Last I checked, every adult person had the right to marry any other consenting adult person... of the opposite sex, with a few restrictions.

In general Constitutional consideration, this DOES constitute an equal right, even if some people may feel it discriminates against them.

But what is the great societal need for allowing this special right to marry people of the same sex? Are there any limitations on it?

And when the US government banned polygamy, wasn't that also taking away rights? Isn't monogamy an imposition of beliefs of one group on another? So, how could that then be denied, once we no longer define marriage as only the union of one man and one woman?

Answer 3

It provides further proof that the power and influence of Fundamentalist Christian Churches is disappearing from America. They lost on both inter-faith and inter-racial marriage, they lost on societal condemnation of single mothers, they lost on the use of Public Schools to compel involuntary participation in Christian religious services by non Christians, same-sex marriage is one of the last laws they have requiring adherence to their religion. If you've been paying attention they've been denying the existence of Separation of Church and State for years, in 1994 in the Contract With American it became an official part of the Republican Platform that they were committed to imposing Protestant Christianity as the official religion of the United States. At the end of the day we have only those rights we can defend, that was why the Founding Fathers also made sure we stayed armed.

Answer 4

Gays don't have the right to get married any more than than a person has the right to steal from another. Many of our moral laws are based on the Bible including gays not having the right to mary the same gender. Only God can judge the heart but we have the duty to judge our fellow man by their actions. Steeling is an action and it is judged by others as wrong. Adultry is an action and it is judged by others as wrong. Murder is an action and it is juded by others as wrong. The same goes with swearing, lying, slander, and etc. We are bound to the law of the United States as citizens but we are ultimatly bound to the law of God since God himself gives the government of this nation the power to make laws. Just because some people think they should be free to marry the same sex doesn't make it a justified freedom. Freedoms come from God alone. God did not give that freedom to humans when he created us. He directly forbid the act like many other sins.

The answer to the problem is for homosexuals to repent of their sin and ask for forgiveness and strive to change and live a life pleasing to God. I am not a homosexual but I am a sinner just the same. The sins are diffent but no better. We have ALL sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. I just thank God every day for the sacrifice made by Jesus Christ to pay for the sins of all believers in him. The hope of every sinner should be in their savior Jesus Christ. As a result we need to TRY to turn away from our sinful ways.

Answer 5

honestly its very difficult to say whether its a right or not. Personally I agree with you about rights. They are a big deal and throwing the term around without due consideration is a cheap way to live. Because to me rights are why my forefathers were willing to die. To defend the Constitution and the democratic process. So its not a cheap thing. And the human garbage that thinks they have a right to smoke etc. need to surrender their birth certificate.
I think gays should be able to get married but is it a right? I cant really say.

Answer 6

According to the Constitutional principle of Equal Justice Under the Law, there should be no law that applies to one person that doesn't apply equally to us all. Therefore, if a man can marry a woman, then a woman should be able to do the same, and vice-versa.

According to the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, if a church is content to perform the ceremony for two homosexuals, then I think the government should recognize it: to do otherwise would be a violation of the couple's freedom of religion.

Finally, on the principle that all people should be able to pursue happiness as long as it doesn't negatively effect others, I think you would have to show how two gays being extended the protections of marriage has a negative effect on others, beyond simply being annoyed or disgusted by it.

Answer 7

1) what right besides the right to make Protestant Christianity the "preferred" if not official religion of the American Empire have the Liberals actually denied you?

2) We are "a nation of laws not of men"

3) what part of "all men" do you take offense with?

4) Why is it ok to hate someone for some arbitrary reason like gender, or skin color, or where their great, great, great, grandparents were born, or even who they snuggle up to every night.

5) Please name the woman or women who were forced by American liberalism to have an abortion.

6) Please tell me which party generated the "Patriot" Act which destroys almost 1/2 of the Bill of Rights and which president (and his party) signed it into law.

You need a little reality as to which group is working against the constitution here.

Answer 8

they don't but they should.

My example is always this- say you're in a hospital on life support.

You have previously had a conversation with your lover about what to do in this scenario and you said you feel the plug should be pulled. You get it down on paper, get it notarized, etc... if you and your lover are not married, your family makes the decisions on what to do in this case, not your lover.

Say your family hates the fact that you and your lover are of the same gender and they want to spite your lover (and you) by keeping you alive in a vegetative state. They have the power to do this, unless you and your lover can get married.

Think of it as the Terry Schiavo case, all over again. (Not a great example but it had the warring husband and family... which is the only reason I mentioned it to support this.)

Do you really want to do that to either your family or your lover?

Gays are people too. They're not asking for much- just equal rights and the benefits that come from being married.

Answer 9

First, religion doesn't have a place in state affairs. It varies too much. Homosexuals should at least have the right to civil union, it's pretty sad when someone you've been with your whole life goes into the hospital and you can't seem them because you aren't married to them ... that's messed up.

As for the comment about libs. Libs aren't the only ones doing that. Look at conservatives. Bush has been chipping away very large chunks of our right to privacy ever since 9/11. Conservatives push for censorship, making it illegal to burn the flag (which IS justly a violation of the first amendment), push for the death penalty when we are one of the few countries left in the world to still sanction it (and arguably a violation of the 8th amendment), take away the rights of homosexuals to even have a civil union ... both sides try to take away the rights of the people based on what they think is morally right or wrong. because they look at the law in terms of right or wrong, versus what is beneficial or detrimental to society. If you honestly weighed the pros and cons of homosexual civil unions, you wouldn't be able to argue that it is detrimental for society.

Anyway, that is my thoughts on it.

Answer 10

I tend to agree with what you are saying (I usually side liberal in my thoughts). I believe in the Bible myself; I also know the government can't go against the constitution when making laws. In this instance the bible and the constitution seem to go against each other.

The bible says homosexuality is wrong, no question on that. Since they are hurting no one but themselves (provided they are hurting themselves) however, the constitution requires we give them the right to the pursuit of happiness. I agree there are times when one's rights interfere with another's and a choice must be made; but they aren't interfering with my right to remain straight--only wanting to get married among themselves.

But the bible also says that we must not force the beliefs of the Bible on anyone, but rather to reason with them using the scriptures. With this I believe the right path is to allow homosexuals to marry but also to allow Christians to tell (and only tell, no violence) them why they should not do so (though they should not use the law to force them not to do so). Not necessarily support homosexuals getting married but simply to stay out of the argument on a voting scale and speak out against it on a more personal scale.

As far as taking rights from Conservatives, I am curious as to what you are referencing? The only thing that Liberals attempt to stop conservatives from doing is forcing their own beliefs on others. Admittedly I would say as long as you aren't doing it violently and in proper areas (if two gays are having dinner but not making out in public what is the difference?, If a Muslim wants to pray in public and the way he likes is to bow down on the ground toward Mecca--even in public does it matter?, and so on); but if you are speaking out against it but not violently so or inducing others to violence--I say you are doing nothing wrong. Other liberals may disagree on that point, however.

If that is what you mean, I agree we should stop that. But if you mean things like the second amendment; we don't want you to stop having guns, but are armor-piercing assault rifles and other wartime weaponry really necessary to protect your home. And I know they are no good for hunting because their won't be anything left of the deer to either eat or mount as a trophy. Basically the deer would be nothing more than a bloodstain on a nearby tree, and do you really want to mount that? Keep it simple, small handguns to scare the guy away; not assault rifles so that there is no evidence he was a human left after the bullet explodes out his back.

Answer 11

Absolutely.

They can get married in any state in the US right now. Other than close blood relations, any gay man can marry any lesbian woman in any state.

The current laws banning same-sex marriage make no mention of sexual orientation. They are purely gender discrimination, since the only criteria for license is gender.

But I'm curious -- how is making something legal "forcing an idea on you"? There's nothing requiring you to marry a someone of the same gender, or to have sexual relations with someone of the same gender...so how are you being "forced' to do anything?

The people advocating for allowing same sex-marriage are just trying to stop the govt from deciding who they are allowed to marry. It's the govt that's doing the "forcing" by prohibiting certain choices. Taking away those restrictions doesn't "force" anyone to do anything.