In New York and Chicago any groups seen hanging around (rather than going on their way to somewhere) have their names taken/checked and are moved on by Police patrols. Should we start doing this in Urban areas?
2007-08-01 02:16:40 · 22 answers · asked by Saucy B 6 in News & Events ➔ Current Events
It already happend - dispearsal notices.
Kids have met up and stood around for yonks, what else are they to do?
If they are causing a nuisence or an obstruction then yes move them on but where too? They are just going to re group elsewhere.
These ideas haven't been thought through.
2007-08-01 02:49:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
My small town did this 20 years ago when I was a teen. We would park in a parking lot somewhere just hanging out and talking and always told to go home. We were not drinking, doing drugs...just talking. There was no place to hang out in my small town so this is what we did. At the time it did not make sense to me. It does make sense to me in big cities for sure especially considering gang violence is just growing in the big cities as well as some small towns. Things are however much different 20 years later. I would personally not allow my child to just hang out on a street corner or parking lot as a teen ager. In my state however you have to be 17 to get your drivers license. 20 years ago you only had to be 15.
2007-08-01 23:54:48 · answer #2 · answered by Ladybugs77 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In general yes, but why pick on kids in urban areas?
I live in a very nice rural area but we still have kids who are a pain. This divide between rural and urban is just another modern myth encouraged by the media and some politicians because it makes good copy. Its a question of scale of course but Its the modern world that's the problem.
2007-08-01 12:24:08 · answer #3 · answered by inthedark 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
we already do, they're called dispersal zones . . .
however we do socialise our kids in groups - playgrounds in schools? so without giving them stuff to do (that doesn't cost anything) what do we expect?
(Dispersal zones
Why is a dispersal zone different to an ASBO?
Officially the police issue a ‘dispersal notice’, which gives them special powers over an assigned area, which automatically becomes a dispersal zone. Police are then given special powers in the dispersal zone. More than 400 dispersal zones have been introduced in the UK under the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003.
How does it affect me?
It means the police can ban groups of two or more people of any age from entering a specific area for up to 24 hours, if they feel they are indulging in anti-social behaviour. The dispersal notice provision also enables the police to drive home children under the age of 16 if they are found on the streets after 9pm.
A recent landmark court case ruled that dispersal notices should not give the “police special powers for arrest”. It was also pointed out that officers should no longer force under 16’s to be escorted home by them. The issue remains a grey area, as the Home Office is appealing the decision. They also insist dispersal zones that already exist will carry on using the same police methods as before.
Can I appeal?
Yes, it is possible. As referred to above, a 15-year-old boy from Richmond known in court as “W” successfully won his case against under 16s (“badly behaved” or otherwise) having to stick to a curfew. “W” also said that being forcibly escorted home infringed upon his human rights.
More info
BBC Q&A: Teen Dispersal Zones - Read about the ins and outs of dispersal orders to date.)
2007-08-01 09:20:27 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
No. The police (as an arm of the state) should not have even the right to say hello to you unless they have a reasonable belief that you are up to no good. What is the point of them taking names and addresses? What would they do with them? Nothing!
Also, what would you class as "no purpose"? Just hanging around talking is enough to qualify as a purpose, as the purpose why you are hanging around is to talk to friends.
2007-08-01 10:01:15 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
While I understand what you're saying, this is America, isn't it? The land of liberty and freedom. I wouldn't penalize all the youngsters in the country because of the actions of the worst 1 or 2 percent.
2007-08-01 12:15:11 · answer #6 · answered by Bob Mc 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No the state has too much control already and what about the thousands of enviro friendly workers who wait on street corners for their mates to go to work in one car instead of three.
It's just another way of cataloguing and cross referencing the public
2007-08-01 09:53:32 · answer #7 · answered by derek m 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Too much violence, too much crime. It is a good way to get shot. With all the gang activity, there has to be a starting plan, in order to maintain control.
2007-08-05 04:48:37 · answer #8 · answered by NJ 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Would n't need to, I live in Britain and have always known where my daughter was and what she was upto. I did not allow her to hang on streets and car parks ever.
2007-08-04 11:43:39 · answer #9 · answered by milly 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think maybe it is a good idea because it might cut down on alot of street crime and eliminating all the time on their hands . they are just moved along and they are not being arrested . Think of all the elderly ppl that dont do shopping or anything after dark because of this very thing . good luck .
2007-08-01 09:21:55 · answer #10 · answered by Kate T. 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋