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I finished Deathly Hallows a while ago, and as Harry was making his second encounter with Riddle, he starts explaining about who the Elder wand chose. I didn't quite understand how he came to the conclusion that it chose Draco, and then was won by Harry. Could Someone Explain this for me please?

2007-07-31 20:31:06 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Books & Authors

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The answer's long but it's accurate.

The wand's ownership is a tricky matter. Ownership can only be transferred properly. That is, the wand will only fully work for the new user if they disarm the previous user. This can occur during a duel

Thus did Antioch Peverell meet his end—murdered in his sleep by a rival wanting to claim the wand. Ever since, the wand has been sought by power-hungry wizards until it subsequently fell to Grindelwald, who stole it from famed wandmaker Gregorovitch. Albus Dumbledore later defeated Grindelwald and became the wand's master, though it remains a mystery as to how exactly Dumbledore was able to defeat Grindelwald while the latter wielded the supposedly "unbeatable" Elder Wand (it's possible, however, that the wand did not consider Grindelwald its owner, since he only stole the wand and never defeated or disarmed Gregorovitch or that, as suggested by Rita Skeeter’s unauthorized biography, Grindelwald allowed himself to be defeated for some reason).

With Dumbledore's agreement with Snape for his death he meant Severus to end up as the new master of the Elder Wand, however, as Draco Malfoy disarmed him, the plan failed and Draco became the wand's new master. After Dumbledore's death, the wand was placed inside his White Tomb. Voldemort opened it and claimed the wand as his own. Only later did he learn that he never mastered the wand because he did not gain ownership from its previous owner, whom he mistakenly believed was Snape, since he had been the one to kill Dumbledore, when in fact Draco Malfoy became the wand's master after he disarmed Dumbledore. By then, the wand's allegiance had been won by Harry when he disarmed Draco, even though Draco never had the Elder Wand itself in his possession.

Voldemort casts three curses on Harry, (two were the Killing Curse) but each lacked the desired effect. The first Killing Curse's failure, according to Dumbledore, is due to Lily Potter's self-sacrifice to protect Harry, at which point Harry became the unintentional Horcrux. The Elder Wand did destroy Voldemort's soul fragment inside Harry with the second killing curse (Voldemort could not kill Harry, but he could certainly destroy that part of himself). The Killing Curse knocked Harry into a death-like state for a few moments (and he returned to reality). Voldemort's Cruciatus Curse, used on Harry when Voldemort thought he was dead, caused no pain to Harry. In the final battle, the Elder Wand recognizes its true master, and when confronted with Harry's Expelliarmus charm, the Wand causes Voldemort's Avada Kedavra curse to rebound and kill him.

2007-07-31 20:43:10 · answer #1 · answered by zea 3 · 4 1

Grindelwald was the owner of the Elder wand until Dumbledore defeated him or when he admitted defeat, whichever of the 2 it was, thus making Dumbledore the owner of the Elder wand.
After that in the 6th book, at the end, in the tower, when Draco disarms Dumbledore with 'Expelliarmus', he happens to be the last person who in a way defeated Dumbledore before his planned death. As his death was planned between him and Snape, Snape didn't actually defeat him. So Draco unknowingly gets the ownership of the Elder Wand.
In the last book, while in Malfoy Manor, Harry takes Draco's own wand and so as Draco was the owner of the elder wand too, Harry too unknowingly gains ownership of the Elder wand.

2007-07-31 21:15:53 · answer #2 · answered by Shibani K 4 · 1 0

The Elder Wand belonged to Dumbledore. Draco Disarmed Dumbledore at the tower at the end of Book 6. He was able to do this because the moment he spoke the spell Expelliarmus, Dumbledore was doing a nonverbal Full Body Bind spell on Harry. Even the most powerful wand cannot perform 2 magic at the same time. Ergo, Draco sort of "defeated" Dumbledore there. Draco need not get possession of the wand itself for him to be its master. The wand itself recognized him as his new master.

When Harry and company were in Malfoy Manor, during the melee, Harry was able to grab Malfoy's wand, thereby, defeating him in turn. All this time, the wand was buried along with Dumbledore. This did not matter, however, as the Elder Wand recognizes each successive master and has allegiance to whoever he/she is.

So, even if Voldemort stole the wand from Dumbledore's grave, killed Snape mistaking him to be the wand's master because he was the one who killed Dumbledore, the Elder Wand still recognizes Harry as its current master. Thus, the rebounding of the killing curse (again....)

2007-07-31 20:56:45 · answer #3 · answered by zachmir 6 · 1 1

Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore on the astronomy tower the night Dumbledore died. Because Dumbledore didn't want to have Malfoy damage his soul by murdering him, he would have fought him. But Malfoy didn't give him the chance. However, he didn't have it in him to kill Dumbledore, and Dumbledore, already disarmed, defeated, and having arranged his own death with Snape, would have been an easy target if Snape wasn't his man. The wand wouldn't have given Snape it's allegiance because he wasn't the one to actually defeat Dumbledore.

Harry had defeated Malfoy weeks before and took his wand from him. At the moment he defeated Malfoy, he became the Elder wand's new master. It's likely the Elder wand could sense that the wand that had defeated Dumbledore had sworn it's loyalty to Harry when he faced off against Voldemort. So it knew it master between Harry and Dumbledore had been defeated and knew it had a new master.

2007-07-31 20:47:14 · answer #4 · answered by knight1192a 7 · 1 1

What I understood is that the wand belongs to the one who "conquered" the previous owner. In the case of Dumbledore, since the last thing he did with the Elder wand was to petrify Harry, Draco had the opportunity to Disarm him, thus conquering the wand. This is why Dumbledore's wand, the Elder wand was supposed to be Draco's.
And then Harry, having Disarmed Draco, made himself the chosen by the Elder wand in time.

2007-07-31 20:42:38 · answer #5 · answered by Dahliecilla 1 · 2 1

To be the rightful master of a wand, you have to win it from the other wizard, not necessarily kill the wizard. since draco disarmed Dumbledoor before he died, he is the rightful master of the Elder Wand. Harry then wins its allegience by defeating Draco at his manor so he becomes the master. when voldemort tries to use the wand to kill Harry, the curse rebounds because harry is the wands master.
you are welcome!

2007-07-31 20:43:17 · answer #6 · answered by Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore™ 5 · 1 1

the elder wand belonged to dumbledore. the thing is that if someone disarms you, the power of the wand instantly passes to that person. in the previous book, draco did disarm dumbledore and got the power of the wand. then harry disarms draco and gets his wand so finally, he becames the true master of it

2007-07-31 20:53:39 · answer #7 · answered by ? 5 · 1 2

i seriously don't get this either.
been thinking about it for two days

I think that because Draco was supposed to kill dumbledore, and Snape was only doing it for him, Draco was the rightful "heir"
and then ( now this gets confusing) because draco was SUPPOSED to get it, harry should have taken it off of him that night at the malfoy manor, but malfoy never recieved it, so harry took his hawthorn wand instead? but should have taken the elder wand?

2007-07-31 20:36:39 · answer #8 · answered by M 3 · 0 3

Either the help we need is not justified so we feel it hard to ask for. When we are unable to have some thing we need or desire that is the right time to ask some one for help. Thank you.

2016-05-19 21:49:35 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Neither did i. she left a bunch of questions unanswered.

2007-07-31 20:37:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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