How can this be a true democracy when our voting system is biased against pro-white parties like the BNP?

Question

As this poll by the HIGHLY respected YouGOV and taken in conjunction with Sky News, shows 20% would SERIOUSLY consider voting BNP:
http://yougov.com/archives/pdf/omi060101069_1.pdf

For those who don't know, our 'first past the post' voting system means that unless a party gets at least 20%, they hardly get any seats and most of that party's votes are 'wasted'.

This dissuades voters from voting BNP because they ASSUME they won't get 20%, keeping the BNP vote artificially low.

Answer 1

Whey-hey, it's been at least a week since you asked the same question! Did you find that you had too many liberals answering your question and hoped that a few fellow British Nazi (nationalist) Party members might be logged on today?
Well I agree with you on one minor detail that our democracy is a little crap, but at least it is a whole lot better than it would be under a fascist party like yours!
Marky Mark, nice to see you here!

Answer 2

The same old question using the same old poll. So I'll answer it again.

Firstly, the poll you quote is not representative of national feeling. The BNP will never achieve twenty per cent of the national vote because their policies are anathema to the British. Sure people may have reservations about immigration policy, but what they are not going to do is vote for a party whose political heritage is derived from an ideology against which we (and many others) fought a World War. Secondly - and even assuming the poll you quote was accurate and representative - eighty per cent of seats in a parliament elected by proportional representation would be composed of parties other than the BNP; the BNP would not even be the party of choice in a coalition. Lastly, isn't it ironic that the BNP, a 'party' not renowned for it's support of the democratic process, is here crying foul because the electoral system does not work in it's favour.

And this is the character of just one former BNP candidate:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/6923933.stm

Answer 3

Oh dear, the same old poll from April again. This poll was taken prior to the local elections where the BNP polled less than 1% of the overall vote, with a polling sample of around 900 taken in an area where the BNP has uncharacteristically strong support. The poll also indicates a large drop in support for the policies mentioned where they were associated with the BNP. This is a largely discredited poll which was proved inaccurate by the subsequent elections.

In case you haven't noticed, The BNP fielded a full list of regional candidates in both the Scottish parliamentary and Welsh assembly elections in May. So how many BNP members were elected in Scotland or Wales under proportional reprisentation? None at all.

They got about 1% in Scotland (same as their UK national average support), and 4% in Wales (their leader's home nation). It was nowhere near enough to get any candidates elected in either case.

So no matter what the format of the election is, the BNP are no hopers. They offer no hope to the British people, they have no hope of being elected and they have no hope of ever being in the position to impliment their ludicrous mixture right-wing extremist social policy, anti-capitalist economics and xenophobic isolationism in the UK.

Answer 4

Look at ALL the policies.

Voters do not want the BNP because of them. National service, denial of civil rights to those that do not take part in national service, the right to vote and so on.

As noted before, the BNP have won no seats in areas where PR is used. The first past the post system that we have here has been of huge importance when it came to the election of Martin Bell when the Hamitons were elected out by the local population. WIth the election of independent candidates in the last election based on local issues that mattered to the constituency population.

What I challenge you to do, is to do the same survey including the manifesto commitment to national service, and refusing to allow those that do not take part in national service the right to vote. Go on, I dare you. See how many people 'vote' for the BNP then. (I will give you a clue, it is the same proportion that have voted for them so far.)

Answer 5

Is democracy what the BNP wants?
According to its constitution, the BNP "stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples." The party is "committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent the overwhelmingly white makeup of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948."

The BNP believes that there are significant biological racial differences that determine the behavior and character of individuals. The party also asserts that preference for one's own ethnicity is a part of human nature.

The last time this approach was taken in Europe, 60 million people died so I'm guessing you should not hold your breath waiting for a larger share of the voters.

I do however, agree that Britain's irresponsible immigration policies are going to achieve critical mass. If the BNP were to tone down it's rhetoric, it may be able to ascend from local politics to the Parliament and be taken more seriously.

Answer 6

Has your Fuhrer in BNP house told you to keep posting this question until you find someone with a brain who agrees with you?

Once again, you report very selectively. How about 80% would not even consider voting BNP, even if they agreed with the stated policies. That's because most people are democrats, and even if they share the BNP's stated views on immigration, crime etc, they know that the BNP consistently lie about their true aim - to remove all non-whites from UK by whatever means possible.

Indeed you acknowledged this when you asked the question:

"When will blacks and Asians realise they are not welcome in Britain?"

And, you know full well, that even if 20% of the electorate might consider voting BNP, when it comes to actually doing it, less that 1% actually do. That's because having considered the BNP, people realise they are Nazis and reject their racist policies.

Answer 7

Proud Brit really is a fan of the 'HIGHLY respected YouGOV' poll, isn't he?

This isn't a true democracy. I'm not sure anyone really believes it is or ever was. Keeping the BNP out, is one of the few good things about our not-democracy.

Answer 8

BNP = Braindead Nonsense Purveyors

Answer 9

The BNP complaining about democracy!

Democracy would be the first victim if they ever got into power.

Answer 10

My heart bleeds.

Hardly anyone votes for the BNP because they're a bunch of racist tosspots. It's got nothing to do with any bias in the electoral system.

Answer 11

I see you are asking the same question again.

What have you got to say about the ex BNP member who was convincted today of posessing explosives?
It doesn't matter what voting system is used, people are not going to vote for people like that.