If a perfect being can only create perfection, because it is a perfect being....Then what went wrong with the creation of humans?
Humans, to me, are just about the worse case of any life form that I can think of.
Honestly, Where did things go wrong in this devine plan for us?
2007-07-30 18:59:15 · 29 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
If human beings had been perfect... the necessity of creating human beings would not have arisen! The existence of living beings confirms the fact that there exists impurities in the soul atman within. Analyzing the facts of the Cosmos... it becomes clear that moment the big bang occurred... all souls atmans in the Cosmos spread in the cosmos at unimaginable speeds.
As the rolling ball gathers moss... the encircling souls' atmans also gathered impurities in their cosmic journey. To remove the dross within... the impurities within... starts the cosmic journey of the soul atman. Every soul atman initially manifests the form of an amoeba (single cell formation)... the first manifestation in the cosmic life cycle!
It further evolves into multi-cell formation, then insect life, plant life, animal life and finally the form of a human being. The moment the dross within a soul atman removes completely it announces the gaining of enlightenment (kaivalya jnana) by that manifested form we know as human being!
Gaining enlightenment by a human being announces liberation of the soul atman within from the cycle of birth and death forever. As long as the impurity within the soul atman remains... it keeps on manifesting life forms one after another! The form of a human being is the highest manifest stage in the cosmic life cycle!
Only as a human being the soul atman within regains its prime pure pristine original form! Never from heaven or hell can the soul atman gain direct entry into the kingdom of God (aka Baikuntha in Hinduism). The moment Mahavira, Gautama Buddha, Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed gained enlightenment and finally salvation (moksha)... it was all over for the soul atman within!
In the cosmic system it is the soul atman that is on its cosmic journey! It is our soul atman that has manifested the body to work out its karma... eradicate the impurities within! The sole purpose of a soul atman is getting liberated from the bondage of Samsara (worldly life) at the earliest! The moment a human being reaches the last leg of cosmic life... the 8.4 millionth manifestation... it announces the end of the cosmic journey for the soul atman within! More on Humans Beings and God - http://www.godrealized.org/humanbeings/human_being.html
2007-08-07 17:56:27 · answer #1 · answered by godrealized 6 · 5⤊ 0⤋
i'm an atheist so i hope you don't mind me answering this question . . .
i beleive we're born perfect, and then little by little we start
eroding like the shoreline on a beach. simply put, we're as
perfect as we're told we are. but for the sake of argument,
if there is a god and he made us imperfect then alot of
people have missed the whole point now haven't they?
have you not ever heard the term? margin of error? only
a god who is not only all loving but all humble would have
to practice what he preaches.
What more humble than imperfection and yet we have
the strenght to lift ourselves out of our own termoil, now
i ask you, where would that strenght come from if not
god, he gave us more than perfection, he gave us the
means to reach it , and brain's to recognize it when we
obtain it, but what good is all that perfection if he's appreciating instead of us . . .
" What do you give the person who has everything?
what else but the brains to realize it, did he not give
us those as well, or would you rather he thought for
us? . . .
what's the old saying? better to give than to recieve?
perfection is like money, one must earn it by developing
it, and then either like a fool, squander it, or use it with
good intentions, he gave us that also , it's called free will . . .
Every day i get on my knees and thank god i'm atheist . . .
Amen . . .
2007-08-06 00:53:26 · answer #2 · answered by Ben 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Your reasoning is all over the place.
1.A perfect being can only create perfection
2.Because it is perfect
3.Humans are not perfect
4.Hence, God is not perfect.
Problems with your reasoning.
1. Why can a perfect being only create perfection? If God is a perfect and an all powerful being it would seem logical that he would have the power to create beings that are not perfect. Correct?
2. Here you are implying that perfection has it`s limitations. A perfect being can only create perfection. If a being is perfect it seems that it would not be so limited.
3. When you say humans are not perfect, you must explain what you define as perfection. Humans are perfect in some respects but not in others. For example - Our cells have structured together in a perfect way to make us functional living organisms. But the human mind itself is not perfect. You must expand upon that idea you can`t just open the door and leave it up to the readers to figure it out.
4. Since each one of your preceding premises is grossly flawed this argument is deductively invalid.
Pick up a philosophy book and read, it helped me out a great deal in constructing logical arguments. You need some help.
2007-07-31 02:09:29 · answer #3 · answered by Future 5 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I think your question is based on the Judeo-Christian view that "god created man in his image", yadda yadda yadda. I won't go into all of the logical stuff - BGrimey did an excellent job of that. I will give you my take though, because I agree that humans are the worst species on this planet. Why? Because we are incredibly species-selfish, and think only of what our needs - and desires - are at the expense of every other living thing on the planet, including the planet itself! Why are we that way? Hard to say exactly, but I think it has to do with the basic human character defects that have always doomed us to be destructive : greed, lust for power, and selfishness. What can any of us do to change things? Start thinking of others before ourselves. Start living and acting as we would like others to. Will it change the world? Maybe so, maybe not. But someone has to start, you know what I mean? I think that global warming and other factors are conspiring to flick the blood sucking mosquito of humanity off the back of mother earth very soon - just my opinion...
2007-08-06 15:47:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Remember first that we are just creations. And THE ONE that created us wishes to make His creation as perfect as can be; - Perfect human beings, NOT perfect GODS.
Human would have been perfect (in a sense) if he just obeyed one simple instruction from his creator- THE MOST PERFECT ONE. The One True God that made you, me, and everything on this earth, and everything beyond earth.
As human chooses to be more imperfect through his own distorted will, more mistakes are made, more sufferings are inflicted, more blood is recklessly spilled, of which human idiocy turns its blame to The One he's already disobeyed from the start. If this logic can't be seen yet...come closer.
No human or living creature can be compared to God. All of us are sinners at the mercy of The Most Gracious Lord.
2007-07-31 02:40:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Read the beginning of Genesis:
God made man (Adam) in His image (not an exactly duplicate)
God made woman (Eve) fron a rib of Adam.
God gave the run of the Garden fo Eden and the ability to think for themselves.
Satan corrupted them (not going into particulars - someone has done that)
The keys to this: God only made them in His Image; gave them the ability to have independent thought; free to make their own decisions right or wrong.
In other words: free will.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck
2007-08-07 23:41:43 · answer #6 · answered by Comp-Elect 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Humans are in the process of being perfected. God is perfect.
2007-07-31 02:24:21 · answer #7 · answered by Gary B 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't presume that a perfect God would have to create humanity perfect, although I am also at a loss as to why he would not choose to do so. I also don't presume that there is a God, so the question may be moot.
2007-08-06 13:23:06 · answer #8 · answered by Captain Atom 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The answer is discerned in the distinction between a divine and creaturely nature. Further, examine your presupposition that a perfect being can only create perfection. Is this true? What theological or philosophical justification exists to support such a premise?
2007-07-31 08:31:01 · answer #9 · answered by Timaeus 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Okay, if you're talking in biblical terms, God made us in his likeness, he gave us intelligence above other beings - but we were all created with an innate weakness which I think he intended.
This weakness is what made Adam and Eve succumb to temptation...but it's the same kind of weakness that leads us to sacrifice ourselves for another - we usually tend to follow our hearts, and that's what get's us in trouble some of the time but it's that innate, undefinable part of us, just known as humanity.
And I don't think God ever intended to create us perfect - he gave us hunger, pain, weakness and hate just so we could appreciate the alternative even more.
2007-07-31 02:14:53 · answer #10 · answered by funny_mel 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋