When will the 2nd American Civil War begin?

Question

Before Bush leaves office in 2009 or when Hillary & Bill take over the White House once again?

Answer 1

It has begun,Consider the following:

1. Over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians and over 3,000 US military personnel are dead as a result of our illegal, imperial occupation of Iraq

2. The "Gulag of Our Times", including Guantanamo Bay, Abu Gharib, "secret" CIA prisons, and the extraordinary rendition program (before you write the prisoners of the Gulag off as "terrorists", remember, the crucial issues are due process and justice....most of those in custody have not even been charged with a crime, let alone had a trial. You could be next!)

3. The rise of Social Darwinism which has led to tax cuts for the rich, corporate welfare, and the diversion of our tax dollars from social programs to benefit humanity to an obscene war machine (which catalyzed the Diaspora in New Orleans).

4. The frightening attacks on Habeas Corpus and Posse Comitatus.

5. Wiretapping and eavesdropping by "Big Brother"

6. Increasingly unregulated corporations running roughshod over consumers and the environment (just keep telling yourself that big corporations have your best interests "at heart" and that Global Warming is a myth)

7. Continued unflinching support for the state terrorists in Israel who are committing a form of genocide against the Palestinians

8. A widening wealth gap, an unconscionable concentration of wealth in the hands of 1% of the populace, 45 million Americans without health insurance, one million homeless Americans, and 13% of Americans living below poverty level

9. Neocolonial policies which perpetuate corporate America's capacity to exploit the people and resources of other nations (i.e. Bolivia)

10. A declared policy of attaining global domination

11. Flagrant violations of international law

12. An Orwellian "Patriot Act" which violates four of the ten Amendments in the original Bill of Rights

With the advent of the Bush Regimes (both I and II), an amoral plutocracy (or Miscreant Dynasty) has seized virtually absolute power in our nation. While most of our presidents have represented America's aristocracy first and foremost, virtually all of them advanced the cause of the poor and working class to some degree. Bush I and II and their myriad criminal accomplices, including Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice and a host of plutocrats quietly working behind the scenes, have hijacked the America that Thomas Paine had foreseen. Meanwhile, a majority of Americans (largely pacified by consumerism, popular culture, and propaganda) have stood idly by as unwitting victims and accomplices.

A nation is an abstraction, a complex and intricate set of dynamics involving many people and processes. It is in a constant state of flux and is not easily definable. However, in recent history, generally speaking, the United States has morphed into a social and political cesspool viewed contemptuously by most of the world. We have strayed woefully far from the "Promise of America", but as Kaye's powerful analysis of Thomas Paine and his impact on the evolution of our nation reveals, it is not too late to fulfill that promise. George Washington is the father of a country ruled by the wealthy elite. The spirit of Thomas Paine is poised to become the father of a nation ruled by all Americans. It is time that "We the People" adopt a new father and wrest the power away from a group of narcissistic, avaricious malefactors who are the enemies of humanity.

Answer 2

I agree there are alot of things that need to be dealt with in our Country but I seriously doubt there is anything that would merit a Civil war, The first civil had to be fought to right a horrible wrong against a people, It has taken over 100 years plus to right that wrong.
This is our Country like it or not, Love it or Leave it

Answer 3

"Ok this may sound childish" I agree! "wanna question my education or grammar" I agree! "In the movie the war in the beginning begun" Are you sure it began that way? "I know the movie is false i have a high school education and a master's degree" Can't agree there. If you were citing degrees, you might mention...you know...a bachelors? Besides, your grammar is worse than that of your former claim, not your latter. Final comment, if you did have a Masters Degree, one would think that you would know how to apply some research to the turmoil of the current day in comparison with turmoil of the past. You could then draw your conclusions with some degree of historical perspective, rather than the lunacy of B-grade movies.

Answer 4

Could be any day considering the attitudes I've seen between liberal and conservative factions on this site. Is all the name calling really necessary because you have different political philosophies? Have you ever considered that the real beliefs of the American public are part of a bell curve where the majority of voters are in the center and not at the extremes? And have any of you considered that Dems and Reps are two sides of the same coin?

Answer 5

We have the causes, a poor president, out of hand illegal immigration, a congress oblivious to the people who voted them in, drugs flowing freely across our borders, a war we didn't need. a middle class that is being squeezed out by having wages undercut, and outsourcing of jobs, and industry.Everyone sees it , so are you prepared to make a stand or lose it?

Answer 6

If there's going to be one, it will be before the November 08 elections--and I hope the Democrats win.

Not that this should EVER have to come to war. The election will decide everything and that's enough action for me. Everyone get out there and vote! Excercise our rights!

Answer 7

What are you suggesting should be the issue? State's rights? Taxation without representation?

Probably we should just elect another Republican and then put the pressure on Congress to stop wasting our money.

Answer 8

Possibly. But we'll fight it here on YA. The injurys will just be pride and ego wounds. No blood, death or torture.

Answer 9

There won't be another civil war, this time the blue states will just peacefully secede and become the C.S.A. ( that's Communist States of America! lol)

Answer 10

If it happens, it will be when the next attack on our soil provides Bush & Chenny the opportunity to declare marshal law.