Isn't it amazing how?

Question

heterosexual people seem to know everything about homosexuality? I mean, they ''know'' it's a choice; a chemical imbalance, abnormal, immoral, etc....YET non of these people know what it's like to BE gay.

Interesting, huh?

AND when they ask us why we are gay, it doesn't matter what we say....they revert back to the old stand-bys....GOD said this...my pastor said that.....it's not in nature....it's not normal....BLAH BLAH BLAH.....

When will people realize that we have no reason to lie? I know I don't. I have NEVER answered a question with a lie. I have no reason to. I'm not a perfect person, but I try my best everyday to treat each and every person with the same respect they show me.

anyway....let the onslought of insults begin!!

I rest my case....I have family that is gay...blah blah blah....how you can know what an orange tastes like unless you eat one? YOU CAN'T!!

and just because you have a gay family member, friend, neighbor...this does not exclude you from being a homophobe...and we didn't make that word up...a str8 person did...HA!

Do you think we asked for all that we get, Papa? This wasn't in the brochure when the recruiter showed up in my small town. I had no idea of that hate that would be associated with me being myself.
I just think that if people understood from a personal level, all that we, or should I say, I have had to endure...they would understand that it's no choice. I didn't want this. I never did. But these people of which I refer don't care to know the truth and pain that I have had to suffer. They make statements based of their personal feelings, not on personal experience. Feelings can cloud a reasonable person's mind....expierences give you a foundation on which to build your mind.

Oh...I'm not attacking you....just responding....

I hear what you're saying....it's comes with the territory...but that's why I am here....to change all of that...maybe..one day

Answer 1

Good Afternoon Hunter.

One of the best questions of the week and maybe the month.

After reading all the questions and answers up to this point I can only say that your question and supplement has raised a few hairs on my back and ruffled a couple of feathers.

To Papa M. The only questioned choice you didn't ask was
"Did you choose to be heterosexual? or were you trained to be heterosexual? or influenced to be Heterosexual?"

I can only speak from my own experience. But I was raised as a boy by parents that until they through me out at the age of 14 because I was gay, loved me as a son that they expected to continue the family name.

When I was 7-8 I knew I was different than the other boys that I played in the playground with. I didn't know what it was or how I was different. I simply KNEW!~!!. When I was 13-14 I found out what it was that made me feel different. and it was right in front of me all the time. I just didn't see it. I dated girls I had fun with them and when we went on dates it was enjoyable but it was WRONG FOR ME!! It didn't FEEL right or correct. I can not explain why. It just didn't. I had absolutely no sexual feelings for them at all. Even when we petted and necked. NOTHING.
One day I met a new guy in school. Don't ask me why but I KNEW he was of interest to me. Later I found that the reverse was true. He liked me too. Yeah right most early teens fool around. This was not like that at all. We made an emotional and physical connection that was unbreakable.
My Dad caught us in my bedroom and before I knew what was happening I was on the street with not much more than the cloths I was wearing. Is that fatherly love? I don't think so. But I still survived. An elderly gentleman I knew said I could use a 10x10 shed to live in as long as I needed it as long as I stayed in school and got good grades. The years passed and I fell in love with a young man 3 years my junior when I was in college. IT FELT RIGHT. He is still my best friend.

So in my opinion, your comparisons of choices people make is not valid. It is not the choices we make but who we are that makes us choose.

Hunter -- It is who we are and what we are that makes the choices we make Right for each of us. We have nothing to base our choices of sexuality on except what feels right. That deep feeling of correctness that we each know is right for ourselves is what we HAVE to abide by. Otherwise as you pointed out We Lie, to ourselves and the people around us. We become hypocrites - denying ourselves. We are no better than the hypocrites that debase us for living our lives in harmony with our own feelings. The saying goes “We each march to a different drummer” But really don’t we all march to the drummer that brings fulfillment and joy to ourselves? And when we are attacked by Bible thumpers that deride us, are we not more in tune with the correctness of our inter being knowing that how and what we feel for others is more acceptance of others and ourselves. I think that is called “agape love”, which is the opposite of the hate and intolerance that is spewed from the keyboards of the “Christian” trolls that come here and degrade our very existence.

Keep the thought provoking questions coming. We all need to be rattled occasionally.

Answer 2

Hunter: 100% gay here, but I wouldn't insult you even if I was str8.

I agree with your points, except that I would say "some heterosexual people seem to ...." and "some ask us why..."

It's the same as when str8 fundamentalists write in and say "Why do gays all dress up like girls and listen to LIza Manelli CDs?" All gay people can't be lumped together and all str8 people can't either.

I think it's important to keep on giving our message of truth, no matter how often they revert back to their old stand-bys, because the crop of uninformed, scared fundamentalists you dialog with today might be a completely new batch from yesterday's.

Answer 3

You present an infallible argument. You don't know what an orange taste like until you taste it. This question could go across many different divides throughout the world. Not just for "diagnosis gay".

Great comment!

And to those that want to slaughter the gays... just shows your level of education and the fact your parents raised you to be a hate filled person. They always preach "God says its wrong" blah blah, but God also says "hate is wrong". Funny thing is, when we get to heaven may be nothing but gay people there... why, because God loves the "sinner" remember!

Answer 4

You’re wasting your time with these people. There are two groups on here who have problems with gays. There are the religious nuts and people with their own sexuality problems.

Religious nuts are victims of child religion abuse, they’ll only change their views if they end up with a gay in their own family.

The others (like PapaM) don’t recognise sexuality and there’s a good reason for this. If you had a battle with your sexual feelings, the last thing you’d want to do is recognise “sexuality”. It’s much easier to say “gays have sex with other men, I don’t do that so I can’t be gay”. If he had to recognise sexuality for what it is, then he’d also have to fit himself into that group (and hell would freeze over before that would happen). Why do you think this site is full of people like PapaM, Jason A, Jello, Jesus Loves You? Do you really think PapaM is sitting on the gay section each day and his female partner is in another room watching Tv? Is that what straight men do (is it hell).

Answer 5

Hunter, you are to be congratulated for telling it like it is. It is amazing how anyone could read what you wrote and still condemn us for something that we have no control over.

Lily Mae, whose comment just previous to mine has got to be one of the most narrow minded people on the planet. I just hope that she can change her views before she leaves this earth.

Answer 6

I'm not going to insult you. You are right, Dead on the money. They use those references because they know that scientifically, they don't have a leg to stand on. You go guy. And I also agree that we have no reason to lie. So why would we. the simple answer is, we don't

Answer 7

AAHH YES! They act like they've been to the end of the world and back with their superior intelligence and experiences! It's quite frustrating though!

Answer 8

DRAKE VAMPIEL D, waste comes out of everyone. Gay or straight, you're putting something that excretes waste into something else that excretes waste. I'm afraid that's not a good argument.

Answer 9

haha i know right? i wonder that alll the time, like when people ask me why i chose to be gay, im like well i didnt, then people say its a birth defect?? honestly?! thats like saying that people who write with their left hand or people who have red hair have "birth defects" so people who say that dont really understand....


(and anyone wonder why straight people are sooooo interested in gay people? makes me wonder....)

Answer 10

It IS amazing. I have brought up the same point myself. People who have no knowledge of what it is like or why we are gay, have all the answers. And for people who find the "lifestyle" so deplorable, they spend all their time analyzing it.