Planet Nibiru...3600 year orbit?

Question

Is there any truth to this planet existing in our solor system?
I read that it has a 3600 year orbit around our sun....and that it was first spotted back in the 1980's but was kept hush for some unknown reason.

Thanks

Answer 1

Awsome answer Mint_Julip, good job. Your post was a pleasure to read and covered so much, this is the first time I've heard of planet Nibiru, but I figured I would try to give you a run for your money. I did some research, and here goes...

Nibiru, to the Babylonians, was the celestial body associated with the god Marduk. The name is Akkadian and means 'crossing place' or 'place of transition'. The term "Nibiru" comes from the Sumerian cuneiform tablets and writings dating 5,000 years old. The term Nibiru means "Planet of the crossing". Please note that the two cultures that have never meet, and lived so far apart, both speak of a 'planet' and 'Crossing' in common.

According to proponents such as renowned historian, Hebrew scholar, author, speaker and archaeologist Zecharia Sitchin and Burak Eldem the Nibiru appearing in Sumerian records correctly refers to a large planetary body. Their research proposes that it possesses a highly elliptical, 3630-year orbit. Such a planet would be approximately in the same orbit as 2000 CR105.

For those of you that don't know what 2000 CR105 is, 2000 CR105, is the fourth most distant known object in the solar system after Eris, 2000 OO67 and Sedna, and is counted as a scattered disc object. It circles the sun in a highly eccentric orbit every 3240 years at an average distance of 219 astronomical units (1 AU being about equal to the mean Earth-Sun distance: roughly 150 gigametres).

2000 CR105 is important because, 2000 unlike other scattered disc objects in that at their perihelion distances, they are not within the gravitational influence of the planet Neptune. It is something of a mystery how these objects came to be in their current far-flung orbits. One hypothesis posits that they were pulled from their original positions by a passing star or a very distant and as-yet-undiscovered (albeit unlikely) giant planet. Unlikely or not, that hypothesis might just be the smoking gun for the Nibiru supporters.

Nibiru might have a hidden allie! Which would help fit into that hypothesis, and add fuel to the fire. Muller's Nemesis theory is that our Sun has a companion star responsible for recurring episodes of wholesale death and destruction here on Earth. Nemesis is a is a common red dwarf star that would be visible through binoculars or a small telescope, if only we knew which of some 3,000 stars to look at. These are stars that have been cataloged, but their distances are not known.

If Nemesis is real, it could explaine the 'crossing' planet if its trapped between the two suns, and does a figure 8 between them, crossing from one to the other, 2000 CR105 orbits every 3240 years, so if Nibiru was just a little bit past it, and did orbit both stars, that could explaine the other few hurand years.

More proof on Nemesis and Nibiru can be found with Pluto. Seasonal change on Pluto is causing the planet to warm up even as it moves away from the Sun, according to two studies that also detected the first firm signs of weather on the tiny planet. Why would Pluto be warming up, unless it was getting closer to another sun, or near a large planet and the force of that planet's gravity tugging on it was causing the frection to heat the planet.

Is any of this proof of Nibiru? Maybe, it shows we don't know everything about or own Solar System, and there's a lot of unknowns that Nibiru can answer, and I hope it atlest gave some good counter points to Mint_Julip's post.

Answer 2

I don't think there is a planet "X" out there. If Nibiru has 3600 year orbital period, we could approximate its mass. We know the Sun's mass and can find the orbital distance (semi major axis) based on a 3,600 year orbit. So we'd have a good idea of where to look for this planet, and we'd know its mass too. By now, we would notice perturbations in the motions of comets and other distant objects, and from them, be able to find such a world. A conspiracy to hide the location of another planet wouldn't work. In all of science, astronomical discoveries would be the hardest to cover up. A few good telescopes and the open sky are all you'd need to confirm its existence.

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Answer 3

Most of the ideas I have heard about a planet Nibiru came from a researcher named Zechariah Sitchkin (sp?)

I have not heard anything about a sighting in the 80s or any cover-up, but many people say that the government conceals such info to keep people ignorant of our origins and life on other planets.

There is a clip from Sichin on the History Channel here http://xfacts.com/updates/history.ram

Answer 4

Writings about this "hypothetical" planet are the result of mystic prophecy (based on Babylonian mythology concerning the god Marduk) not of scientific prediction.

Mystics. with no scientific evidence for their assertions, are claiming it will return (i.e. it has been before), and in 2012, and be a harbinger of doom and destruction.

Although the Mayans (in Latin America) and the Babylonians (in Persia) never knew of each other's existence, latter-day mystics are freely mingling the beliefs and predictions of the Mayans with those of the Babylonians, as though to suggest ancient peoples all agreed that Doomsday was a-coming, to lend the idea a spurious authenticity it does not enjoy.

Nibiru propagandists are unable to say where Nibiru is, what its orbit is, and whether there have been any sightings of it. The paranoid Conspiracy Theory that the government knows all about it and is hushing it up reads to me like a case of Freudian Projection, it is those who believe in Nibiru who are not revealing what they know about Niburu to the rest of us, not the government!

When challenged to supply details, different details emerge, like there is no single coherent theory that is being drawn on. One lot says an orbit of 3,000 years, another lot says 3,600 years.

(The ancient Chinese were studying the heavens 4,000 years ago. Curious that they never reported any such sightings, isn't it?)

One lot says it is out beyond Pluto, another lot assert Nibiru orbits a dead star (but are unable to say which one and how far away it is) and enters our Solar System from there and then returns there again. Quite how it manages to do that and be governed by the Laws of Physics that every other celestial body obeys is never explained.

If there were such a planet within the solar system, it would have a gravitational influence on other planets and that influence would be detected. i.e. planets we do know about would not follow their predicted orbits. (That is how Neptune was discovered, when Uranus was found to not follow the orbit that had been calculated for it.)

In the 19th century, a hypothetical planet Vulcan (between the Sun and Mercury) was postulated to explain certain discrepancies between the observed and predicted behaviour of Mercury. But following the publication of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity in 1905, it provided an explanation for those discrepancies and astronomers gave up looking for Vulcan.

Similarly another hypothetical planet, Planet X was postulated in the early 20th Centiry to explain certain discrepancies between the observed and predicted behaviour of Neptune. But following the Voyager I and Voyager II flybys, more accurate calculations of the masses of Uranus and Neptune were abkle to be made, and inserting these values into the equations meant the discrepancies disappeared and astronomers gave up looking for a Planet X. It wasn't needed to explain non-existent discrepancies.

Nibiru adherents like to pretend that Nibiru is Planet X and that X means "tenth planet". Not so. Planet X as discussed by astronomers was always X as an unknown as in algebra.

As there are no longer any discrepancies in the orbits of other planets to explain, it follows that no unknown planet-sized object exists, as yet undetected, in the inner Solar system (jnside the orbit of Neptune)

Whilst a planet-sized object may perhaps exist beyond the orbits of Pluto and Eris, the question that Nibiru adherents have to answer is "then how will it get here in 2012, given only Pluto of the other 1,000 or more TNOs crosses inside Neptune's orbit (and that only briefly)?"

i.e. How is Nibiru going to escape the gravitational influence of the four gas giants and Mars, and rendezvous with earth in December 2012?

When subjected to intelligent scrutiny, the Nibiru project is easily exposed for the fraud and pseudo-science it is. Don't give it any credence.

Answer 5

My questions I have are:
1) What speed is this plant traveling at?
2) What is the approximate size of the plant?
3) What is the circumference of this orbital loop of the planet ?
4) At what point in space does it appear

Answer 6

Sitchin was a brilliant scholar. .....And you re missing a "0" on your question of orbital timeframe. Also, it is more likely a comet with a 36,000 year orbit......one that would make Haley s comet look like a hailstone

Answer 7

absolutely false. if they had seen it in 1980, then we would be seeing it right now. remember there are lots of amateur astronomers out there looking for comets and whatnot, and if a planet could be spotted in 1980 it would be huge now since it is supposedly only getting closer to us.

this planet would be a naked eye object by now, but no one (other than niburu nuts) have actually seen it.

Answer 8

This is somebody's fantasy. There is absolutely no scientific evidence for the existence of such a planet.

Answer 9

There's no such animal. It was invented by a teacher in the Philippines in a book that she wrote for her classes..

Answer 10

There has never been proof of its existence and no observation records produced to show where it was reportedly sighted.