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"I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." - President George W. Bush

I think Mr. Bush is 100% right. Once we became a Christian nation we invented the Internet, polio vaccines, so many things that would have been denied us by atheists who just didn't care about anyone else. This is country based on MORALITY. There are no morals in athiesm. Being selfish and refusing to thank the Creator is not acceptable to me. What kind of country would we be if we continue to allow people with such terrible agendas to become citizens.

What do you think, friends?

2007-07-28 16:19:15 · 24 answers · asked by Gunning4Jesus 3 in Politics & Government Politics

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Wow. I feel loved. You know, you're the kind of people that have driven me back and forth between believing and being an atheist. Why? Because that means God has some pretty cruddy followers. I guess that means the church going kids that beat me up at school, threw rocks at me, called me names and ostrasized me were more moral than me, especially since I didn't fight back because it was wrong. Man, I guess my entire life has been up to worshipping the Devil while those glorious followers of God are busy doing his work. Oh wait, they had to put it on hold after being convicted of DUI and illegal possesion.

I thought God was supposed to judge me at the end, not be judged upon by some two bit preaching religinut that can't comprehend individuality in beliefs.

2007-07-28 16:34:13 · answer #1 · answered by K 5 · 2 2

The quotation you used was by George Bush, the elder, not his son. It was an incredibly stupid remark, and he certainly should have known better.

The United States is not, and has never been, a christian nation. If the founders had wanted to create a theocracy they would have done so. There is no mention of the christian god (or any god, for that matter) or Jesus in the founding document, the U.S. Constitution. In fact, the only mentions of religion in the Constitution are exclusionary.

Article VI, Paragraph 3 - "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Amendment 1 - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The United states was founded as a secular nation: no religious test to hold public office; no law respecting an establishment of religion.

2007-07-28 21:02:47 · answer #2 · answered by YY4Me 7 · 2 1

I know many atheist who are jvery moral.

Perhaps youve heard of the Free Thinkers? They have a very strong moral compass, but they are a group of atheist.

Where is your proof for any of this? Id like to see some that proves Im selfish, and also some proof for that quote. Prove that I am immoral.

As I stated the other day, my personal belief is that you will find more ammoral religious people than immoral atheist. Reason being that to function in society, an ammoral person must find someone to define his morals for him. The church does this with gusto making it a haven for ammoral people who are only believers out of fear---Im not accusing all Christians of this, or even a majority. In fact, it seems it is mostly the ones that assume atheist are immoral merely because of our lack of God. The people that assume that are of course the same ones that dont understand morals dont come from God exclusively, they come from within as well. A good Christian does things for the same reason a good atheist does-theyre the right things to do.

2007-07-28 16:39:58 · answer #3 · answered by Showtunes 6 · 4 1

no. i'm christian, and i still think that there should be a separation of church and state. i don't think atheists chose to be so because of a dislike of morality, in fact, many have done it because they believed christianity stood against morality (i.e. stoning homosexuals, everyone except a very small amount of individuals going to hell, etc. as said in the Bible). being selfish and refusing to thank the Creator may not be acceptable to you, but isn't it your Creator who told you to not judge others, to let Him judge.
as for the inventions, many were invented by the highly liberal, anti christian people you just spoke of. i imagine all inventions, not just the internet and the polio vaccines, were done out of a desire for fame/money/humanitarian efforts, as opposed to direct love for God.

denying religious freedom is one short step away from the highly conservative policies of countries in times a couple centuries ago (i.e. the witch hunting in the 1600's, the inquisition in the 1500's, ....)

one last thing: your name is Gunning4Jesus, when did Jesus ever preach murder and violence? you don't follow God's advice word for word, yet when others do it, you point a bold finger.

2007-07-28 16:59:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Wow! this is scary stuff! I am a Republican, but this type of thinking is not American, it is Fascist! The Constitution is based on ALL people being created equal. You can't make non believers second class citizens. Being a Christan is about living your life according to Gods word, and being an example for the rest of the world. A good Christan should show compassion for ALL people!

2007-07-28 16:36:17 · answer #5 · answered by ruDawg 2 · 5 1

I am a Christian Republican but cant say I agree with your statement that all atheists are immoral. It is not my place to judge others and there are plenty of people, no matter what religion, that are immoral.

2007-07-28 16:23:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Im Christian and would prefer a nation of Christians but doesn't the Constitution allow for freedom of religion.

2007-07-28 16:26:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

I think being a Christian and LIVING a good Christian life makes people better human beings - you HAVE to live it and not just SAY it.

I am not afraid to say what is right and wrong and to JUDGE ACTIONS. I won't judge individuals. That's up to God.

2007-07-28 16:25:04 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

Sorry man I have to disagree. I am a republican, but even I find it hard to believe that Bush could be so eliquent.

I also disagree because this country was based on religious freedoms, not Christian moralities. People fled to this continent to escape religious persicutions.

2007-07-28 16:29:13 · answer #9 · answered by bigdaddy33 4 · 4 3

I agree with you and President Bush! Our country was founded on Biblical principles and upheld by them for many decades. I believe that it is for this reason God blessed the US. I also believe it is because of the Christians in our country now who pray daily for His Protection and Provision that we haven't fallen into the hands of the enemy. Our country better wake up fast because God's paitence is being tested!

2007-07-28 16:28:03 · answer #10 · answered by Brianne 7 · 3 3

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