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2007-07-28 09:36:22 · 2 answers · asked by magpie 6 in Society & Culture Royalty

Has he produced 15 yet??????

2007-07-28 09:48:52 · update #1

Evie S: worse than that not correcting the people regarding the fact that she was a good old fashioned PROTESTANT wh*re as opposed to the Catholic w*ore aka the "Weeping Willow"

2007-07-28 12:01:39 · update #2

yes, I think she was hysterical, Didn't they call her "pretty witty Nell"? Keeping track of their religious beliefs probably was difficult, but in those days probably very important. To this day I believe that the future Queens or Kings of England cannot marry a Catholic

2007-07-29 08:40:15 · update #3

Actually I am not a historian so this may be wrong, but I thought their son Charles was running around and Nell was calling him a little "basta*d" and his father was horrified so she said something to the effect that's all I can call him, so he gave his illegitimate son with Nell. the title "Duke of St. Albans"

what is a "deathbed Catholic?"

2007-07-29 16:04:44 · update #4

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That's Murray de Vere Beauclark--not just plain Beauclark; and yes, numbers 15 and 16 are lining up for the title: the heir apparent is Charles Francis Tophame de Vere Beauclark, Earl of Buford (1965), and Lord Buford's heir apparent is James Malcolm Aubrey Edward de Vere Beauclark.

Oh, btw, we can be pleased that Charles II didn't let poor Nellie* starve.

Response to Magpie: Do you mean Louise de Kerouaille? Nellie reputedly exclaimed that she was the Protestant wh*re when mistaken for Louise. Of course, since Charles II, a death-bed Roman Catholic, acknowledged 18 children by 14 mistresses (or is it the other way around), it's a wonder if the "Merry Monarch" kept a running tally in regard to their religious preferences.

A "deathbed Catholic," or a deathbed anything else, is an individual who makes a professional of faith on his or her deathbed. Charles II apparently called for a Roman Catholic rather than an Anglican priest as he lay dying (at least according to two of my sources); other sources conclude that Charles agreed to became a Roman Catholic in 1670.
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*Nell Gwyn was a Protestant mistress of Charles II who was suitably rewarded for her bedside manner with the title Duchess of St. Albans.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.UK/STUcharles2.htm

http://www.the-world-in-focus.com/Europle/England/Royal_Family/Charlesii.htm

http://romanmiscellany.blogspot.com/2007/02/deathbed-conversion-of-charles-ii.html

2007-07-28 10:07:00 · answer #1 · answered by Ellie Evans-Thyme 7 · 1 1

The 14th and current Duke of St. Albans is Murray Beauclerk.

2007-07-28 09:42:50 · answer #2 · answered by JerH1 7 · 0 0

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