does anyone have an opinion on the guy that allows smoking?

Question

in his pub in blackpool. he has one bar for smokers with smoking barstaff and another for non smokers with non smoking staff. he has already paid numerous fines but for the sake of his customers he is willing to be taken to court with the hope that he will be found guilty so he can appeal to the eu courts of human rights to appeal against the ban

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=469818&in_page_id=1770

sorry about the first link not working , the second one does though

Answer 1

The mans a hero, lets have a collection for him

and remember this:- When the government realise that the smoking ban has affected the income of pubs to such an extent that the revenue on the drink sold is hardly worth collecting.

Then the government will start listening to the liberal brigade about banning drink alltogether.

Drink has more cost to the NHS than smoking and far more cost to the police than smoking.
Drinking is the next big target for the doo gooders.

and to the nameless d head two answers below me,

drinking is an addiction!

stigray

8 billion revenue
2 billion cost to nhs

we smokers are paying for everyone elses hospital treatments

Answer 2

Hi, I think if people are willing to go in and people are willing to work there, than a problem doesnt exist. I am a non smoker but I do believe smokers human rights have been violated. I also agree with non smokers too. I see both sides of the argument but with the pub where there is an option and everyone is happy, why the hell not?

Answer 3

Good for him. He understands that his business is there to meet the requirements of his customers, not the Government, not the bl--dy Chief Medical Officer, nor the anti smoking brigade (the intolerants), who have based their campaign on two significant lies: The passive smoking argument and the cost to the NHS argument. Both bull---t.

I am a non-smoker and back his stance as far as pubs go. Even if the passive smoking and NHS arguments were valid (but there not), it is still up to the individuals themselves. The intolerants need to be careful, because they are now talking about men over 50 having to take statin drugs to save the NHS money. As human beings we are now being reduced to being a function of cost to the NHS. Another means of controlling us. They know that we wont routinely take these drugs, but if we don't, it provides them with an excuse to withold treatment. Remember, these bar stewards are our servants, not the other way around.

Answer 4

I think he is great and hope he wins.
Why cant they have pubs designated for smokers and non smokers pubs, it would be so easy to put a sign outside stating which it is.
I do smoke, and since the ban has come in the amount of non smokers that have said to me that they didn't mind smoking. My husband doesn't smoke and is getting moody because he is sitting in the pub on his own while i am outside talking to all sorts of people.
I am sick of the non smokers moaning about us polluting pubs, well now they can sit in stinking pubs while we all enjoy fresh air and have a ciggy as well!!

Answer 5

I think he is brilliant, we used to be a free country but now we are turning into a nanny state ( so not good ) Ok they say we fellow smokers cost the NHS millions per year due to illnesses caused by smoking, but we pay enough tax on the cigarettes to fund every body's NHS bill's. If you think about it, if we all quit the government will have to get the money from some where else. I say let us live our life's the way we want.

Answer 6

Good for him ,we need more landlords/landladys to do the same,why should we be dictated to,Me and my husband are both smokers and enjoy going to the pub for a drink and chat with friends,but why should we be pushed outside,its all wrong and we have only been once since the smoking ban and i can say it was not an enjoyable evening.

Answer 7

Good for him.. In the good old days we had seperate bars anyway. Now,with the food thing and allowing children in pubs,all change. The smokers are shoved outside and kids run wild in the bar.. Some progress !!!!!

Answer 8

I am neither a supporter of the Labour party nor a smoker, though I once used to be. This law is not about infringing human rights or spoiling people's 'fun',you can put it down to sheer economics. Smoking costs the National Health Service millions of pounds a year in respiratory and smoking related diseases, as well as heart disease, thrombosis and many cancers. It can even cause some bladder cancers as the by- products of smoking eliminated in the bladder cause irritation to the lining . So even if smokers have their own rooms in pubs they are still contibuting negatively to the economy. I am delighted that I no longer come home after being out with my hair and clothing (even underwear!) stinking of acrid smoke and nicotine.Good law long overdue.

Answer 9

He has my full support. I don't know why the law didn't allow this accross the board - bars, restaurants etc could have the choice either to allow smoking or not, people could have the choice to go to a smoking or non smoking venue. It would be illegal to light up in a non-smoking venue, and perfectly legal to smoke in a smoking venue. Makes perfect sense to me. Good luck to him!

PS - I'm a non-smoker - I just don't like being dictated to by the government. I think we should have the freedom of choice.

Answer 10

wow im glad there is someone out there willing to stand up for his rights!!
im a non smoker and find it ridiculous that smokers are being attaked for having an addiction. im pretty sure that the effects of passive smoking have not actually been proven yet.
good on him tho, if im ever in blackpool ill def search out that pub purely because he has the guts to stand up for himself