Do you ever converse with friends/family on the phone or computer using 'red flag' words like Al Qaeda,terror

Question

Just debating like we are here?

Under the guise of National Security and policing our conversations are many citizens unknowingly opening themselves up to being arrested and or detained by someone who was listening to these conversations?

Even if was merely an innocent conversation about opinion?

What recourse would those people have in proving their innocence considering the fact that the government doesn't have to charge you or give you access to an attorney?

People could be held for years under these circustances!

That doesn't make you angry and appalled?

Who's to say that isn't already happening?

Giving the government these powers is dangerous! And it is in direct conflict with the Constitution!

Answer 1

I like to say outrageous things on purpose on the phone relating to that just to mess with them if they are listening.

It does make me angry that someone could be detained for years with no access to legal counsel.I'm sure it already is happening, they do have the authority to suspend habeaus corpus for citizens they suspect of certain things, whether it is true or not.

Appalling that this happens in the U.S.

Answer 2

That's true, and unfair since there are terrorists who have nothing to do with any of these 'red flag' words. Just look at the Virginia state shooter. Our country has had terrorists lately that fit none of the descriptive words that the national security look for. If seung cho, or any of the columbine shooters googled anything, it sure wasn't any of the 'red flag' words. As we debate serious issues and raise 'red flags' there can be potentially dangerous people buying guns, but the GOP approves of lenient gun sales, and is against gun control. It's kind of stupid that secret service can't distinguish between a real threat and a regular discussion.

If anyhing, there should be a crack down on child porn, and child molesters should lose their rights and be detained.

Answer 3

Echelon is a system used by the U S, NSA, UKs GCHQ, Australia and New Zealand. It can monitor virtually all telephone system whether terrestrial or mobile. They also monitor virtually all emails and log the URL of sites you visit on the web.

Most of this is done electronically using a lexicon of key words known as the dictionary. Started in the late 40's the system really bloomed in the 80's.

That said it is an intelligence gathering tool and very few people have been arrested because of their message content. What it does is allow the intelligence agencies of the West to pick up suspect calls and emails and even some website use as an indicator of who to suspect and watch.

It is highly unlikely that words like Al Qaeda or terror would be in the "dictionary" as they are in such common usage but known or suspected code words and phrases certainly will be.

These are vital tools in the detection and prevention of terrorism, spying, international crime and paedophilia and no real threat to personal liberties and freedoms, indeed it exists to protect them!

Answer 4

Exactly. I absolutely do this, all the time. I debate and disuss politics with my friends and family, and in this day and age, you cannot debate or discuss politics in this country without using words like the ones you listed, and others which are considered "red flag" words.

It's getting ridiculous. They're censoring us because they don't know what else to do. They think there's no reason the term "al Qaeda" would come up in someone's daily conversation. Barely a day goes by without mentioning this terrorist group, however, because it's a current event. It's like the government wants us stupid and silent. And people think that isn't fascist.

Answer 5

Yes... Slowly, we are moving toward a police state. We are building more jails. Privacy seems to be a thing of the past. The government is keeping databases on its citizens that are incomplete and inaccurate (reminds me of the old Soviet Union). This is not the America that I helped build.

Other governments seem to have done a better job of maintaining the integrity and the rights of citizens. The US attack and occupation of the Middle East is considered criminal by many people and contributes to the belief that the US government does not care about the well-being of people.

It's time to tune out [mass media] and start building communities. Work locally and build a sustainable good life.

Answer 6

I deliberately mentioned many of these words frequently in telephone and email conversations for quite some time. After only a short time there were people following me around in cars. This practice continued for years. I suppose it gives 'them' something to do. I concluded it to be a waste of taxpayers money and fossil fuels so I stopped; as did my shadow.

Surely people with bad intentions are not going to make their aims apparent to the powers that be, by saying any of those words. And the rest!

Answer 7

I have used words like that on the phone and I am not in prison. You should stop being paranoid

Answer 8

That's pretty paranoid of you. How many people, on this public forum have used those terms yet have not been detained by the Feds? I'm guessing no one.

Answer 9

Iam not worried since when I bring those terms up I am speaking in defense of this countries not the terrorists.

Answer 10

They re watching us all type too dont that bother you? If they came to your door after seeing one of these flags dont you think they would have enough sense to tell if you re a pork eating al-kadian or not ? the first entrant looks al- kadian