That's not all: McLaren during the hearing admitted to have received secret material, and that the knowledge of this operation of espionage arrived at the top level,
even to
Ron Dennis, and there hasn't been any penalization. It's shameful.
do you think the above statement made by John Todt is true?
2007-07-27 06:51:35 · 19 answers · asked by Just for Laughs 4 in Sports ➔ Auto Racing ➔ Formula One
What happened there was totally shameful. McLaren is caught with its pants down, yet they're allow to walk free. It's like saying they're guilty of having documents they shouldn't be having, and yet they will not be punish.
Rules are rules, and FIA are not acting acording to the rule book, they are clearly in favor of Mclaren and the new Lewismania syndrom. Look at how Lewis was crane back on track and FIA says its legal. For got sake, a driver sitting a car while it's being crane? That's the first time I ever saw such a thing.
2007-07-27 16:59:43 · answer #1 · answered by Hornet One 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Ron Dennis has ALWAYS prided himself as an honest and honourable man. I do not think he was aware of what was in the papers, other than it was Ferrari stuff. He wears his emotions on his sleeve and has always tried to be one of the most honourable people in F1. That is not an easy task given the reputation of the sport. I think if he actually saw it, he would say so. I do think he told Coughlin to give it back and Couhlin didn't. That is a problem McLaren need to solve.
John Todt is just trying to get his Team ahead of McLaren, his year end bonus depends on it. I am not sure you can blame him for trying to make McLaren look bad. McLaren was, reportedly, the one that turned Ferrari in earlier this season for their "movable floorpan". Todt was not a happy camper, thinking he had a leg up and then finding out he didn't. I am guessing that this was BEFORE the plans were known to McLaren, if not, there may be more to investigate.
2007-07-27 09:32:09 · answer #2 · answered by spacedude4 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I miss racing! When teams were limited only to the realities and practicalities their own research and development brought. When if one discovered secrets, they were irrelevant, because new developments were constantly being made. Thanks to all the new rules and regulations (restictions) by the FIA, this (espionage) is what racing is reduced to. Do I care what Jean Todt or Ron Dennis or the other team managers have to say? Hell NO! I want to see all out racing since this is supposed to be pinnacle of world-class racing.
2007-07-28 19:24:04 · answer #3 · answered by f1mudvayne29 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Once again, people have managed to NOT understand the ethics of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes. This is not your average "slap-dash" team of rats.
We are talking about a highly developed team with a mission to maintain it's clean-cut corporate image as a formidable marketable asset.
They have highly ethical and professional business sense. To accuse this team (of all others) of cheating/and high level espionage amounts to a highly entertaining and laughable joke.
Please don't confuse McLaren with the abominable ones. You will be making a grave mistake.
2007-07-28 10:49:35 · answer #4 · answered by Marc McLaren 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The way I see it is that Ferrari's plans have back fired. They wanted rid of Nigel Stepney, as they were restructuring the team after the loss of Schumacher and Brawn. As they knew that Stepney and McLaren's Mike Coughlan had been to Honda together for and interview, they tried to indite Coughlan by planting Ferrari documents in Coughlan's possession. Coughlan's possession. Not McLaren's possession. Typical Ferrari underhanded tactics. I think for Ferrari to accuse anybody else of cheating is a bit rich. They have built a legacy on it. Besides, I don't give a **** what John Todt says. He's got a pork farm on his face for Christ's sakes!
2007-07-27 07:25:14 · answer #5 · answered by gadmack2000 2 · 4⤊ 1⤋
i don't believe it. Jon Todt is a man angered having lost his battle against McLaren. if he indeed say that and its not the press cutting it to make headlines, then i think he said it in retaliation.
Ron Dennis has always prided himself in his teams integrity. Honesty and appearance has always been important to him. They even have dress codes for the drivers - the first thing DC did when he left was to grow facial fuzz and Fernando has had a very short haircut. not relevant to what Todt says, but part of McLarens ethics
2007-07-27 07:04:58 · answer #6 · answered by val f1 nutter 7 · 5⤊ 1⤋
First they had team orders (banned in F1) at Monaco, then they steal Ferrari documents, and ONLY their driver gets preferential treatment at Nurburgring by being the ONLY car lifted back on track when rules clearly state you can only do that once the driver is CLEAR OF CAR and cannot continue. (Irrelevant whether he is still running the engine)
So they cheat, they steal, and they get preferential treatment.
The FIA wants McLaren to win - and is doing everything in their power to do so, and Ron Dennis is still saying he is an angel!
(BTW McLaren is my 2nd Fav. Team, but this is going to far)
2007-07-27 11:33:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Yes.
Ron Dennis is also on record as saying he would never favour one driver over another or use team orders. Ask Montoya or Coulthard about the honesty in those statements
2007-07-27 07:23:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Regardless of who is lying and who isn't, the World Motor Sport Council said that the McLaren team is "in breach of article 151c of the International Sporting Code." Therefore logic and fair-play dictates that they should be penalised... doesn't it?? Well apparently not - what a farce!
2007-07-27 10:03:34 · answer #9 · answered by Burnsie 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
well personally, I think that Ron Dennis is an honest man, but if you have the chance to 'glance' at the oppositions technicalities, then you would have a look wouldn't you?! After all, it happens in everyday life anyway!
2007-07-28 08:37:51 · answer #10 · answered by Niall S 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋