Why does everybody ignore jews kicked out of Arab countries?

Question

I read question afte question about Israel and the Palestinians. Yet the people who criticise Israel - often with incorrect info as their starting point - never seem to care or even know that jews have been kicked out of every single Arab country. Except Iran, where they live as second class citizens.

Israel welcomed and absorbed all the jews from the Muslim states. Why, then, have the Arab countries not welcomed their Muslim brethren, instead of leaving them in Gaza and West Bank?

There are 22 Muslim countries, many of them large and rich. There is one tiny jewish country, and she is smaller than Wales.

EDIT - DERRICK: your facts are wrong. Far more than five hundred jews were kicked out of Arab states, including Iraq, which had a big jewish community. And as for Israel not treating Arabs well - again, the facts prove you wrong. There are Arabs sitting in the Israeli parliament, for example. 20 per cent of Israel's population are not jewish, and much of that per cent are Arab. In Israel, they have total equality with the jewish citizens. And they have more rights than in any of the Arab countries.

JAMES W - the wall you refer to is there PURELY because it was the only way to reduce the number of suicide bombers that were getting into Israel towns and murdering innocent people and children.

As for your cheap shot about the Nazis - there is no basis for comparison. The number of Palestinians is rapidly increasing - not dwindling which it would do if there was a programme of organised extermination against them, such as was used against jews in Nazi Germany. The Israelis give the Palestinians free food, water, electricity; they have built new housing, opened schools and hospitals - more than ANY Arab country has done for the refugees.

Answer 1

It seems to be true that the Arabs and Muslims are not very good at looking after their own. When the Hezbollah/Israel war made areas near the frontier difficult, Israeli refugees were accommodated in a refugee camp (privately paid for, I believe) with every possible comfort. Israel is not a rich country, yet Israelis found the money to do this for their own citizens. Jewish displaced persons from Islamic states have been integrated into Israel with less difficulty than one would expect.

Now, Arabs displaced by war do not seem to enjoy the same standard of care. Much of the world's oil, and hence wealth, is found in Muslim countries; why has not some of this money been subscribed to make the Palestinians comfortable or to help those who want to move to be resettled? We hear of the Muslim Ummah (community) - is this, then, no more than a word?

Put another way, in whose interest is it to keep a growing population, angry and in poverty, a perpetual threat on Israel's borders? Certainly it does nothing to help Israel. The Palestinians are patently not in love with the idea either. Who stands to gain? That is the question I would like answered.

Answer 2

What the hell are you talking about? Jewish people were kicked out from Arab countries!!! And Israel will never kick any Arabs out of there, because they are Israeli citizens!!!!!!!!! I am assuming you are an Arab, or probably a person who supports them, and hates Israel for some reason. Well let me tell you this, Israel is a democratic country, and they will not kick any non-jew out of there! First of all, Israel is a country that was kind supposed to be for Jewish people. Why? Because antisemitic people never accepted them! So we decided we can't take any more of this crap, and get a country of our own! As long as you are an Israeli citizen, you can stay there, whether you are Jewish or not! And don't start saying that it isn't fair for people who are not citizens, because it is the same in the U.S. you idiot! Do you think that America lets people just come there and start a life? No! You have to either be a citizen, or have a green card or something. And don't you dare call it a "so called" holy land. It is a Holy Land. People who live in other countries instead of Israel is because: Either they are not very religious, or they just can't leave their home countries just like that. Some people stay because they believe life is easier there. But they still believe in Judaism! Israel is not a country that requires all Jews to be there! What are you? A 10 year old kid? An antisemitic? A dumb@$$? P.S. Why the hell do you come up with the statement:"OBVIOUSLY the Israelie government will kick out the non Jew resident in Israel"? How do you know that? Did they say that? Did they write it? Did they do it? Or do you just have a small brain as the size of an Apple? You were probably raised in a wrong way.

Answer 3

There was a big and thriving Jewish community in Egypt, until the creation of Israel and the first war beween Israel and Egypt. Jews were then expelled or their life made difficult. I have the facts from an interview with a woman who is the president of the tiny Jewish community in Egypt. The second oldest Jewish cemetery in the world is in Egypt.
When you go through three wars with another country, when they kill your people and occupy a big part of your land for many years, then leave it littered with land mines (Sinai) and no maps to help remove them, when they humiliate you as a country and a nation, when they have so much influence on American presidents and in many ways influence a lot of what happens in the world, including the Palestine problem, then there is not much love left. It's as simple as that.
On the other hand, I have seen lots of Israeli tourists in Egypt where they come because it's cheaper and locals behave reasonably, some even friendly, towards them.
As for taking in refuges, if Arabs take Palestinians in (which they do) that would leave Israel with no Palestinians and no Palestine to deal with. Great advice for the Arabs.
Also, not everybody is equal in Israel. Ashkenazi get better jobs than Russian Jews, and the Arab Jews, although clearly Jewish, come last. Too much propaganda.

Answer 4

Jordan is aroudn 50% 'Palestinian.' Jordan was also part of the Mandate of Palestine (or at least bits of it were), so I don't know how many of those are Jordanians who identify as Palestinian vs actual refugees from Israel and the occupied territories, but I'm sure there are some. And, Palestinians can be found around the Arab world, they may not always be in the greatest shape there (think Mexicans in America), but they're all over the place. They've also emmigrated to non-Arab countries. The nice old guy who fixed my wife's wedding set is a Palestinian.

The Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are there, in large part, because they want to be there to press thier agenda against Israel.

Answer 5

Ahh, this is the problem. There is plenty of hypocrisy and ridiculous superstition and lies to go around when we are talking about the mid-east. You forget to mention the 3rd player in this mid-east drama and that is the west, as in western countries such as the U.S, England, and Europe in general. It has to do with the oil. I honestly don't believe it is just an issue between the Jews and the Muslims. I think if oil wasn't part of the equation that there probably wouldn't be so much of an issue between Muslims and Jews. However, that doesn't mean there wouldn't be problems. Due to the treatment of the Palestinian people by Israel. And, don't tell me that Israel hasn't abused Palestinians, in the past and in the present because I know better. I know many Israeli Jews and visiting Americans who have witnessed it first hand. Many Muslim countries have brought in the Palestinian refugees. Saudi ARabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon have all done so. And, don't some Palestinians still live inside Israel and Jerusalem as citizens but not necessarily in Palestinian neighborhoods but integrated into the larger population? And, yes you are right when you say that the Muslim countries have kicked out the Jews from their countries and that isn't right either. I think it is a complicated mess, quite frankly, and neither side has the moral highground completely in their favor. I think the involvement of the U.S in the region makes it even more complicated and more volatile. I mean, lets face it, the U.S, England, France etc. all fund and sometimes help militarize Saudi Arabia, Iran (France and Soviet Union), Jordan, or Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan and ISRAEL. This isn't helping Israel at all. And, I think invading Iraq made Israel even more vulnerable.

Edit: actually, Israel has been seizing alot more of palestinian land. During Sharon's rule, Israel seized alot of Palestinian farmer's land. It's still going on. This isn't right either. And, you can't make an argument that validates the Israeli government's behaviour.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31140-2005Jan23.html

Answer 6

Yes its true there were more Jewish refugees from Muslim countries than the number of Arab Palestinian refugees that fled their homes in what is now modern Israel. Many people do not know that or choose to ignore it.
Of course Israel welcomed all the Jews, at a great cost, but also for political purposes - it increased the Jewish population relative to the Muslims. Arab countries particularly Jordan, did welcome some of the refugees but camps were set up for many (mostly in Jordan and Lebanon) as a political pawn, to keep pressure on the UN and to attempt to de-legitimize Israel. Its a shame really and it goes to show you that Muslim hatred of Jews far outweighs their love for one another.

Answer 7

The better question is, why would they put them smack in the middle of an arab hot spot if they really wanted them to have a successful stable country?
after all, if their country is so small, couldn't they just be given a 10 mile wide strip along the American-Mexican border? I mean that would get rid of the problem in the ME, and our immigration problem would it not? Would be far cheaper than what we pay to protect them.

Considering the fact that Iran has executed or kicked their Jewish citizens out, i think it has more to do with Israel than being a Jewish thing.
So you are saying Jewish people are living in Iran as second class citizens? That would be implying one of two things:
1) Iran isn't prosecuting them for being non-muslim, like they do everyone else, so i have heard, which gives them more rights than 1st class citizens, or
2) They are muslim Jews, and muslims will allow other muslims to be treated poorly.

somehow that doesn't jive.

Answer 8

How many Arab states have taken in Palestinian refugees and given them homes.not like the Israelis they have taken Jews from all over the world.I'm not a great lover of the Israelis but you have to give credit where credit is due

Answer 9

I'm always annoyed about that. Some people only want a one way relationship. They only complain abuse caused to their people, but don't care about the abuse their people cause on others. I am hearing stories from Iranian Jews out here in L.A..

PS I heard the Syrian Jews have a similar situation as Iran. They are allowed to stay, but they are treated as inferiors and are not allowed to speak up.

Answer 10

They don't care because it makes them look bad and their arguments are even weaker because of the fact that tens of thousand of Jews were mistreated and kicked out of Arab countries. It also hurts their argument that Israel is really a European settler state because they have to recognize that roughly half of Israel's Jewish population traces their ancestory prior to being in Israel from Arab and not European countries.

Good Luck!!!