Well whatever your position on 9/11, the fact remains that within 2 weeks of other major disasters, there was a formal investigation announced. Pearl Harbor, JFK, the space shuttles, hurricane Katrina--all within 2 weeks, most within a week. It took 411 days for there to be an "official investigation" into 9/11....an event that killed over 3000 innocent people, in broad daylight, on American soil, with all the cameras rolling. 411 days!!
Forget about that though, take a look at what was spent on the effort once it finally got rolling vs. something like, say, the Clinton Administration's screw ups.
Cost of investigating the Clintons for Whitewater and semen on the dress of Monica?......about $65 million
Cost of the 500+ page 9/11 Commission's report?.....about $15 million
Comparatively speaking, something is wrong here folks. It's kind of tough to believe that the facts have been completely fettered out for $15M. In fact, it's REALLY tough.
And so, we're left to the confusion and fear of not knowing the truth--exactly the state that governments and terrorists want us to be in. Propaganda is a powerful thing in the hands of people that know how to use it--that's been proven over and over. Next to organized religion, propaganda has killed more people than anything man has ever invented.
There are a LOT of unanswered questions about 9/11 and anyone that thinks otherwise has had WAY too much Koolaide. Americans have the freedom to ask questions and every American should until the truth is revealed. It hasn't been so far....so keep asking.
2007-07-28 14:08:59
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I am amazed that someone who have front row center seats for the most horrific attack on US soil since 1812 and think it was stage by one video.
This nation can't keep one BJ under wraps and you think something on the scale of 9/11 was pulled off in less than 9 months where all demolation experts say they would need a year or better to bring down a building and no building has ever been taken down by control demolation from the top down.
OK this is your morning wake up call. I am looking forward to the day when I don't have to post this any more because people like yourself will have to admit that 9/11 was carried out by Muslim terrrorists.
Now for your education:
In order for the 9/11 conspiracies to work the following must happen without any problems. If anything were to go slightly wrong it would have failed.
1. The entire military change of command that would be necessary to fire a missile would have to keep absolutely silent. That would include the pilots, ground crews, and those who are held accountable for the missiles.
2. There were have to be a record time explosives experts rigging the WTC without the chief of security of the WTC (He was nations best expert on terrorism) not noticing them working in the WTC.
3. The list of eyewitnesses who saw the plane crash into the Pentagon all had to be briefed and all their stories had to be prefect.
a. Partial list: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77w.htm
b. Another view: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0203/S00134.htm
4. Also you have to everyone part of executing the plan to remain absolutely silent and not leaks.
a. Other problems explain better than I: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm
5. For those want to bring up the reason why the hijackers are not listed on the manifest please read. http://www.marsearthconnection.com/manifests.html
6. Please remember the claims how dumb Bush is and Washington is town that can’t keep one affair secret.
7. Let us not forget all the recorded (YES) recorded phone calls between the passengers and people on the ground. How they relay the information so that the hijackers were id so quickly.
8. Jews didn’t show up to work fiction:
a. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/w/wtcisraelis.htm
9. For the WTC 7 question I direct you to: http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf
10. For the myth about explosive material found at the WTC. Lets consider the following:
Fluorite
http://www.minerals.net/mineral/halides/fluorite/fluorite.htm
commonly occurs in limestone formations
Some uses of for
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/fluorspar/
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/fluorspar/index.html#mis
http://www.sydneysteelmuseum.com/history/art_of_steelmaking.htm
Limestone can have small amounts of fluorite in it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel
(some quality control issues given)
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Products/Pglossary/mineral.html
hardness scale
11. Why the building feel the way it did: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/04/eveningnews/main627441.shtml
a. I am using CBS for a reason so you don’t ***** if I used Fox.
b. Don’t like CBS how about this right wing rag Scientific America
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000&colID=13
Finally it comes down to this what is the motivation for all the conspiracies?
Is their hate for Bush so great they are willing to trash the memories and heroes of 9/11 in order to make Bush look bad? The answer by all the web sites and who is backing them is a resounding YES!
The good news is there are others who believe you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/22/world/europe/22cnd-pew.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
btw: They want you dead too.
Need proof of that? http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20060830-085517-9650r.htm
In case you happen to lose your hat here is where you can get more: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ or if you got taste try this http://www.ericisgreat.com/tinfoilhats/
Screw Loose Change Video. (Yes, it's finally here)
http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/
Loose Trains
http://loosetrains911.blogspot.com/
Salon - The 9/11 deniers
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2006/06/27/911_conspiracies/index.html
SciAm blog about conspiracists' reaction to Shermer
http://sciam-editor.typepad.com/weblog1/2005/05/a_conspiracy_of.html
In These Times: Nightmares of Reason: Sorting fact from fiction in 9/11 conspiracy theories
http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/26/15/feature1.shtml
The September 11 X-Files
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=66
Interview with Prof. Jonathan Barnett, an expert in structural and fire protection engineering who was one of the WTC investigators
http://www.wpi.edu/News/Transformations/2002Spring/fall.html
Snopes debunks "Hunt the Boeing", a conspiracy site based on Thierry Meysan’s (and David Ray Griffin’s) claim that a missile, not AA77, hit the Pentagon
http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
Wikipedia articles on conspiracy theory characteristics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracism
Journal Of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
http://www.jod911.com
Engineers Explain WTC Collapse
http://www.architectureweek.com/2002/0529/news_3-1.html
Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures
http://enr.construction.com/news/buildings/archives/040119.asp
IT WAS THE FIRE, CAUSED THE TWIN TOWER COLLAPSE - icivilengineer.com
http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/Fire.html
Simulation for the collapse of WTC after aeroplane impact - Lu XZ., Yang N., Jiang JJ. Structure Engineer, 66(sup.). 2003, 18-22
Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.
Brannigan, F.L.
"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.
Clifton, Charles G.
Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.
"Construction and Collapse Factors"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.
Corbett, G.P.
"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.
"Dissecting the Collapses"
Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.
Eagar, T.W., & Musso, C.
"Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation"
JOM v. 53, no. 12, (2001): 8-12.
Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor.
World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations
(also available on-line)
Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A.
"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center"
The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48.
Glover, N.J.
"Collapse Lessons"
Fire Engineering v. 155, no. 10, (2002): 97-103
Marechaux, T.G.
"TMS Hot Topic Symposium Examines WTC Collapse and Building Engineering"
JOM, v. 54, no. 4, (2002): 13-17.
Monahan, B.
"World Trade Center Collapse-Civil Engineering Considerations"
Practice Periodical on Structural Design and Construction v. 7, no. 3, (2002): 134-135.
Newland, D.E., & Cebon, D.
"Could the World Trade Center Have Been Modified to Prevent Its Collapse?"
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 7, (2002):795-800.
National Instititue of Stamdards and Technology: Congressional and Legislative Affairs
“Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center”
Statement of Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr., before Committee of Science House of Representatives, United States Congress on March 6, 2002.
Pinsker, Lisa, M.
"Applying Geology at the World Trade Center Site"
Geotimes v. 46, no. 11, (2001).
The print copy has 3-D images.
Public Broadcasting Station (PBS)
Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary.
NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online)
Post, N.M.
"No Code Changes Recommended in World Trade Center Report"
ENR v. 248, no. 14, (2002): 14.
Post, N.M.
"Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing"
ENR v. 249, no. 19, (2002): 12-14.
The University of Sydney, Department of Civil Engineering
World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects
A resource site.
"WTC Engineers Credit Design in Saving Thousands of Lives"
ENR v. 247, no. 16, (2001): 12.
The Towers Lost and Beyond
http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Eduardo Kausel, John E. Fernandez, Tomasz Wierzbicki, Liang Xue, Meg Hendry-Brogan, Ahmed F. Ghoniem, Oral Buyukozturk, Franz-Josef Ulm, Yossi Sheffi
2007-07-27 09:45:43
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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