Mayans were right, Apocolypse?

Question

So. I guess the mayans were right about the world ending in 2012. With Nibiru coming, 5/6th of the population is gonna die. Nibiru is planet X the planet past pluto. It rotates around a dead star, but cuts through our solar system. WHen it will come it will pass near the earth between 2009 and 2012. you will be able to see it with ur naked eye by then and it will cause super storms along with major earthquakes. THis has happened before. The Mespatamians, also called Sumarians and Babalonians, knew about this. They have it inscribed that everything rotated around the sun before galileo came along. Many people also think that we may be REDISCOVERING planets and facts. There may have been technology as good as ours before our time, but it was crippled. Probably is true.
Back to Nibiru. So after that in 2013 the poles will shift and there will be waves 1-2 miles high. THere is another twist.Is the aliens helping us or starting a war with us?

Answer 1

If Nibiru is Jupiter, then it didn't come anywhere near Earth in Babylonian times and it won't come anywhere near Earth in the next few years either. Planets do not leave their orbits and go wandering off like that and then pop back to their orbits again till the next bout of wanderlust strikes them!

I would like to hear some answers to the following questions about Nibiru since you claim to know so ,much about it:

(a) How far away is the dead star that Nibiru rotates about?

Sirius B is the nearest white dwarf that we know about and that is 8,6 light years away. Is this dead star nearer than that?

(b) Is this dead star known to astronomers? Does it have a Henry Draper catalogue number? Is it in the Gliese catalogue of nearby stars?

(c) Which constellation is this dead star in, please?

(d) Have astronomers found an extra-solar planet revolving around this star? If so, what is its mass and what is its distance in AU from its star and what is its orbital period?

(e) Can you explain how Nibiru manages to escape the gravitational influence of its star and launch itself off into space to go star-hopping to other stars?

(f) Given the distance that its parent star is from us, can you explain how Nibiru is going to make it to earth. within the next four and a half years? Given the nearest star we know about is 4.22 light years away and nothing can travel faster than light?

(g) Can you explain how the planet Nibiru "cuts through" our Solar System? Do you mean that it enters it, beyond Pluto and then migrates to the inner solar system? If so, can you explain why and how it does so, given no other planet or minor planet gets further in than Neptune?

(h) Is Nibiru somehow exempt from the ordinary Laws of Physics that apply to all other celestial bodies?

(i) how can you possibly know for certain that five-sixths of earth's population (over 5 billion people) will die? Do you have a trajectory of Nibiru, based on observations of it, and calculations of how close it will come to earth?

(j) If you don't have a trajectory, do you at least know where Nibiru is right now? How do you know? Have you seen it in a telescope?

(k) if you can't tell me (don't know) where it is right now, and you don't have a trajectory, then how can you say with any certainty that Nibiru is coming?

What it boils down to is the difference between prophecy and prediction. Mankind from ancient times has been studying the planets and working out their orbits in considerable detail, and has therefore been able to predict where they will be in the skies in the future with some confidence.

But no-one who writes about Nibiru has (as far as I can see) ever done any study of the heavens to find this planet and predict its future behaviour and its course from its observed behaviour to date.

All you appear to have to offer us is unsubstantiated assertions without evidence or proof. Why should anyone believe you?

Oh and by the way, the Mayans were on the far side of a very wide ocean from the Babylonians and there were no ocean-going liners or communications satellites in their day, so the two civilisations did not know of eachj other's existence, let alone their mythology and predictions.

So there is no way that you can claim an appearance of Nibiru as something the Mayans knew about, had foreseen and were right about! It is impossible that they would have known what you claim the Babylonians knew about,

You are just trying to link up one doomsday prophecy with another so as to pretend there is a body of like-minded opinion amongst ancient peoples all concurring in your interpretaton of their history and beliefs.

Answer 2

None whatsoever. The "religious views" are quasi-religious, New Age - type beliefs. Because no one actually fully understands ancient Mayan petroglyphs, we don't know how THEY considered the Long Count Calendar, which is where we all get the 2012 apocalypse from. In order to understand how the Mayans considered their Long Count calendar, we have to look into Mayan culture contextually, not easy to do from the mere fragments that remain of their civilization. Think about a future sociologist looking at the remanants of our current civilization one thousand years from now, when no remembers much of the United States. Say she finds a building with many seats, assumes it to be a religious building, and a plastic panel that says very simply "Armageddon 12 05 95 The World Ends" with the picture of an asteroid heading to earth. She surmises that we had some sort of advanced knowledge and predicted an asteroid collision for the 12th day of the 5th month of 3095 and begins touring the lecture circuit to talk of our secret knowledge. In reality, she happened upon a movie theater with a plastic backlit panel for the 1995 movie Armageddon. We don't really understand Mayan culture because we don't really understand Mayan petroglyphs all that well. The sole knowledge we have comes from a few books penned by a Jesuit missionary in the 16th century, which were rescued in 1945 by a Russian soldier from a burning library in Berlin. Point is, you have to look in context, and the context of the Mayan civilization has writings that reflect dates far into the future (16 million years at the latest point).

Answer 3

Thee Mayans had quite an imagination. However they worshiped the sun, the moon Etc..They were a little backwards about reality. They had no idea that the Sun is not God, but just a Nuclear furnace in Space.Their idea about astronomy was very primitive. No relativity theory,no Big Bang theory,No telescopes etc.. which perhaps the future generations will think about these theories and compare them to the Mayans as being primitive also.Therefore we cannot make something else out of their calendar which only indicated a counting system of time.
The Earth is here to stay and there will be future Generations of Humans as well. The World will Not disappear(end) =its too beautifull a Creation.

Answer 4

I suspect this is a joke, but in the event that it's not, don't worry. It ain't happening:

-There never was technology on Earth beyond ours. We would have found it.
-The planets we are discovering now are invisbile to the naked eye. Mayan astronomers couldn ot have found them.
-Shifting poles doesn't cause waves or earthquakes and it isn't going to happen.
-The planet Niburu is actually Jupiter. The "Planet X" is Eris and it isn't coming anywhere near Earth.
-What aliens?

Answer 5

If it's gonna be like that, I'm moving to Colorado.
Aliens are not interfering in our "progress", they are observing.

Answer 6

If you're going to smoke that stuff you have to bring enough to go around to everybody.

Answer 7

You could become a very good science-fiction writer, and i mean that.