Hey could somebody explain to me the King's Cross chapter in HP & the Deathly Hallows?

Question

What exactly happened between HP &dumbledore? I couldn't really get that chapter.....Dumbledore's dead? So how the hell were they talking to each other....and I suppose the disgusting baby was voldemort...but i am not sure...could someone explain?I think I was speed reading a bit more, maybe I missed a few details.

Answer 1

dumbledore is dead and currently harry is aswell. he is in the death world and harry is taking to dumbledore, dumbledore gives him a choice to be a latter

Answer 2

Well it seemed like Harry was somewhere between life and death. Not quite in the spirit realm, but at the same he wasn't entirely in the mortal realm either. I guess the train station could be seen as more than just where muggles and witches and wizards go to take a train to some destination (for witches and wizard's that's the Hogsmead train station and from there to Hogwarts). It's like it is also a point where the dead who have crossed over to the spirit realm (the dead who don't crossover become ghosts by the way) and the living who are very near to death can meet and interact. It becomes a point between the two realms, and there both mortal and spirit are flesh and blood.

But then one must ask the question of if that is so why didn't Harry see his parents, Sirius, and Lupin once again like he had in the forest. Maybe the two have to really want to see each other at that moment. At first I was gonna say that maybe the dead couldn't have been gone for more than a year and a half, but then if that had been the case he should have seen Lupin who had just died that day. But wanting to see each other makes sense because Harry needed to know the truth and Dumbledore needed to let it off his chest.

The baby was most likely the part of Voldemort's soul that had split off from Voldemort the night he tried killing Harry. It was that part that actually allowed Harry to choose to return alive to the mortal realm or to just die. Remember, Dumbledore did say Harry had a choice. He could return and face Voldemort or he could, as Dumbledore put it, "board a train." However, the bit of Voldemort's soul, mangled and unwhole, had absolutely no choice.

Answer 3

Harry died and somehow JKR depicted "heaven" or its wizarding equivalent as King's Cross station. The long and short of it is, Harry has the choice either to go on or go back. The reason he has a choice to come back is explained (though not simply) by Dumbledore as this: when Voldemort took Harry's blood (OTOP ending) Voldemort somehow became Harry's horcux (that's the way I understand it). Ergo, like Voldemort he's not really dead. Besides, he is unbeknown to himself, already the possessor of the Deathly Hallows so he has mastered death.

Yes, that creature was Voldemort and how he would become if he ultimately die.

I'm going to do the same and read that part again. I might get a different interpretation and get back to you.

Oh, I forgot, Dumbledore said that it was all in Harry's mind when Harry asked him that question. Magic is weird.

Answer 4

My interpretation:

Do I need a spoiler tag?

By giving himself up, Harry thought Voldemort would kill him. Instead, Voldemort killed the part of Harry that Voldemort himself resided in.

Harry was still alive because Voldemort had Harry's blood (from the end of GoF)

I thought just like Aslan in the Chronicles of Narnia, I could SO see it coming.
Anyway.

Harry does not die.

The next part is confusing, I have two ideas.

I don't believe he had a real conversation with Dumbledore. The lines at the end made me think that Harry was just realising some more things, and since Dumbledore had always been his mentor, "Dumbledore" explained it to him. I didn't find any new info., but I sped read a bit, could be wrong.

I concede that he could have been on the verge of death and so accessed the "spiritual realm", and that way the real Dumbledore really was explaining to him.

Answer 5

Harry was in between life and death. The train station represented that he passing through if he wanted to, but he could choose. He talked to dumbledore and straightened everything out, all his doubts, and Dumbledore made sure he knew what to do. Dumbledore said that he could take the train if he wanted to, or he could go back and kill voldemort. Dumbledore said that of course it was in his head, it was like a state of mind, but that didn't mean it wasn't real. It WAS real. He did actually talk to dumbledore, but Dumbledore didn't come back from the dead, he joined the dead briefly. One thing I was confused about was the shriveled thing crying. Was that possibly the piece of Voldemort's soul?? No...maybe.

Answer 6

Dumbledore is dead. If you read the end of the chapter, Harry asks if it is in his head. Dumbledore says "Of course it is in your head, but it doesn't make it less real." This means that Harry was imagining this (possibly under magical influence). It wasn't real, Dumbledore is dead, and the reason why the wand didn't kill Harry is because Harry was its rightful owner.

As for the baby, I'm guessing that was the horcrux part of Harry (the part of Voldemort's soul in Harry) that was now being left behind.

Answer 7

my take was that harry was at the point of crossing between life and death. He could have chosen to ride the train to heaven or come back and fight because voldemort had taken some of his blood so he hadn't been fully killed. Dumbledore was waiting there for him. Remember, of course, that he had been hit by the killing curse. As for the baby I think u r right but that part wasn't so clear.

Hope i've helped :)

Answer 8

I don't know, Harry was between life and death, he could choose to either go back or just give up and die. Apparently Dumbledore could come there too, since he's halfway. Yeah, the baby thing was supposed to be Voldemort I'm pretty sure. It was either what he would be like when he died (since he lost so much of his soul) or it was the piece of his soul that was attached to Harry.

Answer 9

Yeah, Dumbledore is dead. Harry was at that point where he was "walking toward the light." That's where he saw Dumbledore. The disgusting baby is basically the baby in Harry that was made into a Horocrux. Instead of Harry himself dying, only the evil baby part of him died.

Answer 10

the baby is voldemort - the bit of his soul that harry was harbouring as an unintentional horcrux. dumbledore tells harry everything, blah blah. what really happens is, harry is trapped in the phase between life and death - all in his mind. here, rowling has used a device so that you can decide what is actually happening. either a) this is REAL, there is really a 'kings cross' that not-yet-dead-but-almost people go to, to decide whether they want to fight or not, or b) its all in harrys head, and harry gives himself the courage and wisdom to get up (not literally) and fight till the end, instead of just give up right there, just because its the easier thing to do.

dumbledore says 'of course it all happening in your head....that doesnt mean it isnt real...'

it is all harrys 'imagination' (thats how i see it), but it is real in the sense that it is enough to make harry want to fight for what he believes in, and give him the strength to make the tough choice, because it is the right choice.

hope i didnt lose you. this is just how i see it.

she uses kings cross as an analogy, because that is where it all began, in the sense, that was where harry first had the chance of waving his duties godbye by not boarding the train to hogwarts. here, again, he has the chance of not boarding the train, but going back and doing what is right.

Answer 11

You could think of that Kings Cross place like a type of heaven. harry was there and could communicate with Dumbledore. However, Harry chose to go back.