Urine Test......................?

Question

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them??

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butts doing drugs, while I work... Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ?????

Answer 1

I couldn't agree with you more. The money saved from those that fail their tests could help offset the costs of the people that really need the help.

Answer 2

interesting idea. at first I didn't like it, but its growing on me a bit as I think about it.

We need to provide a basic human safety net for people, just out of basic human decency and as insurance against ourselves or our loved ones coming up against a personal catastrophe. but that doesn't mean compassion has to be given with no strings attached. I think that when we provide aid to people, it would be reasonable for the more convenient types of aid to have some conditions. for instance, vouchers for your own private housing costs vs living in a communal shelter. The former requires meeting some conditions, the latter is extended to anyone not expelled for violent or antisocial behavior (in which case they have accomodations at the gray bar hotel)

But first of all, I am a bit troubled by why you are okay with your employer requiring a drug test without probable cause. Scientists have mapped the human genome now, which means that very rapidly, we will have a sound scientific basis for making some inferences about your propensity for certain behavior based on your genetic makeup. Are you prepared to be excluded from eligibility for certain kinds of work because you might do something based on your genetics?

I fear that laying down quietly for drug testing without probably cause might set the stage for preemptive purging or at least refusal to hire, because someone carries a gene for a predisposition to alchoholism or drug use. It seems a slipperly slope.

Yet I also support the notion of private ownership with reasonable anti-trust and pro-competition government protections, and from that side, drug testing seems to be a fair exercise of property owner rights. why let you risk the equipment and materials I am paying for if you are drugged, let alone risking the health and safety of others.

So you might just be right. Good question.

Answer 3

Ya know I study hard for these tests and I can never pass!!

/bad joke.

You make a good point, that would really be a great idea.


except you and I both know, it's too "Un-PC" to ever be enacted.

Answer 4

You make a great point, unfortunately the libs would not let this be passed into law.

Answer 5

M Series for President.

Answer 6

I think that is a good idea, but the problem is why should children starve because their parents are addicted bone heads.

Answer 7

how much would it cost to test welfare recipients ?...if they don't get there check will the state feed and house their children ?...how much would this cost ?...how many extra state employees would have to be hired (with full state benefits) to conduct the tests ?

Answer 8

I've heard this before but I agree with it.

Answer 9

You may be on to something here

Answer 10

your idea is good