JFK was in a parade, parades go slowly. He was also in an open topped car so that he would be visible to the people assembled alongside the road. The JFK assassination brought with it a lot of changes to how the Secret Service operated. You can't use hindsight to do things like this, because you are just fooling yourself; president had rarely traveled in covered cars and numerous times drove by crowds of people while exposed well before the JFK assassination.
The car sped off, because there were shots fired and any driver/body guard, what JFK's driver was, knows that you need to get the passenger out of harms way as fast as possible, so of course the car speeds off after shots were fired.
What on earth do you think the secret service men could have done? Sit on the sides of the car and block the president from all angles except for straight up? There was no need for them, because no one expected someone to try and kill JFK.
It isn't hard to believe that someone could "outsmart the government" as you put it. What Lee Harvey Oswald did is frighteningly easy to pull off. He set himself up in an elevated position from which he could get a clean shot at his intended victim. Not really outsmarting anyone, simply using the terrain to his advantage; and no the government never, and hopefully never will, occupy every floor on every building on the route a president will drive, so it isn't far fetched to say that someone could have set themselves up in a favorable position to pull off a relatively easy murder; escaping is harder.
2007-07-23 15:38:58
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answered by 29 characters to work with...... 5
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I know the movie JFK by Oliver Stone has lots of assumptions in it and does the Hollywood thing, but it does make some very serious points. I have also watched specials on TV about the assassination of JFK and have heard both sides of the story. I still feel that JFK was shot from the grassy knoll, which would be from basically the front and that there was more than one shooter. I think Oswald was a patsy and used by whoever actually shot JFK. As far as the car speeding off after he was shot, that is not usual. When Reagan was shot, they threw him into the limo and blasted out of the area. It hopefully prevents the shooter from taking more shots. As far as the Secret Service men, they were in cars ahead and behind the President. That too was not unusual for the time. The Secret Service did a lot of changing of protocols after JFK was shot. The Warren Commission report on the JFK assassination has been read, re-read and pulled apart and people still say that it is a correct report of what happened. We will probably never know.
2007-07-23 15:33:04
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answered by ? 7
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I don't know who shot JFK but I don't think it was OSWALD!
There is some very convincing evidence that Oswald didn't
Do it.
1. While in the Marines Oswald: was trained in the use of the M-1 rifle. Following that training, Oswald was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a sharpshooter. In May 1959, on another range, Oswald scored 191, which was 1 point over the minimum for ranking as a marksman.
{Far below the ability that was needed to make the shot the killed the President}
2. Oswald was court-martial twice while in the Marines: Once for accidentally shooting himself in the elbow with an unauthorized handgun.
3. When the Soviet Union rejected his application for Soviet residency made a poor attempt at killing himself. The Soviets kept him under psychiatric observation at the Botkin Hospital. Although this attempt may have been no more than an attention-getting ruse, the Soviet government feared an international incident if he attempted something similar again.
{I do not think the Soviet Union or anyone else would use someone so unstable to be there agent for anything.)
4. Oswald attempted to assassinate General Edwin Walker.
Oswald attempted the assassination on April 10, 1963. Walker was sitting at a desk in his dining room (working on his federal income tax returns) when Oswald fired at him from less than one hundred feet (30 m) away. Walker survived only because the bullet struck the wooden frame of the window, which deflected its path, but was injured in the forearm by bullet fragments.
(Oswald was such a bad shot he missed from 100 feet away!)
5. It just happened that Oswald got a job at the Texas School Book Depository On October 20? On November 16, a local newspaper reported that President Kennedy's motorcade would be going through downtown Dallas on November 22, "probably on Main Street" one block from the Texas School Book Depository, which it would have to pass to get onto the freeway to the President's luncheon site. This was confirmed by exact descriptions of the motorcade route published on November 19
6. Do you really think Oswald could be a cool as a cucumber after shooting the President? It was the first good shot he ever got off.
I can't help but wonder why the CIA or the FBI had not kept a better eye on him, especially when the President was to visit the city that he lived a worked in. I think that if it were in this day and time they would, they might even go as far as locking him up when the President was in town.
One can't help but wonder what would have came out in the trial of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Then Jack Ruby shoots him, and latter dies.
2007-07-23 15:33:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK. His military training provided that he was an excellent marksman, one of the best in the marines. The lack of security measures provided an opportunity for Lee Harvey Oswalsd. Kennedy requested that the bubbletop be down and the secret service men are scanning the crowds but obviously not the buildings. Remember this was 1963, and it was a lot more innocent then. In fact that's when our innocence ended.
As for the exit wounds, all medical analysis indicate he was shot in the back of the head and one bullet exited his throat. Go back and look again, and read the medical files.
Also for a very good book on this subject read Case Closed by Posner. This book was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
2007-07-23 15:30:58
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answered by Jackie Oh! 7
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Go visit the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas. Stand at the window that Oswald used. Look below at Dealey Plaza and you will see why the motorcade was going at five miles an hour. One reason is to allow the remainder of the Secret Service's Executive Protective Detail to jog along the vehicles. Or didn't you discover in your "detailed research" that Special Agent Youngblood jumped on the President's limo when he heard the shots? That's the man jumping onto the back of the limo to keep Mrs. Kennedy from getting hurt while reaching for a piece of her husband's skull!
Lee Harvey Oswald was awarded an Undesirable Discharge from the Marine Corps Reserve for absenting himself from the U.S. without advanced permission from Headquarters, Marine Corps. Since it was awarded in absentia, the Secretary of the Navy had to approve it. That man was John Connally, who was in the limo with JFK that day in Dallas. Oswald hit the wrong target! He was out to kill the man whose signature on a document was responsible for kicking Oswald out of the Corps. A military service he tried to join at age fourteen when he lived in the Bronx.
Get off the internet, find out how guys get less than honorable discharges from the service and visit the "shooter's roost" on Sixth Street in Dallas.
2007-07-23 18:20:51
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answered by desertviking_00 7
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Jimmy "the Weisel" Frattiano claimed that Giancana (the then Boss of Bosses out of Chicago) gave the go ahead for Marcello (of New Orleans) to carry out the assassination. It involved Castro (who had a grudge after finding out the CIA was behind the Bay of Pigs Invastion) so he got a patsy (Oswald) from the Russians to carry-out the deed. Marcello's beef was a result of RFK's investigations into organized crime. To cover the link to the Mafia, Marcello had Jack Ruby (a two bit night club owner in the Marcello organization) take out Oswald to seal his lips.
Giancana's beef with JFK was his impression that JFK renigged on promises to leave the Mafia alone since he felt he pulled strings in Chicago to get him elected.
Several weeks before the assassination, Oswald met with Cuban agents in Mexico. For inexplicable reasons, the FBI agents who were following up the Cuban connection as a part of the Warren Commission investigation, were recalled
2007-07-23 16:11:33
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answered by Its not me Its u 7
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I'm sure others have mentioned it--but the Mafia, through Mayor Dailey, I think, of Chicago, bought JFK the Presidential election through the Unions for Illinois--which got the electoral votes! Then, JFK turned around and put his brother, Bobbie, in as Attny General and HE went after the Mafia!! The Mafia got ahold of Oswald, financed his "training" and took revenge upon JFK!
2007-07-24 12:18:01
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answered by Martell 7
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the government did it to keep us in Vietnam. JFK was going to pull us out. his regular detail had been pulled off and told to stand down. what a shame that lee h. took the fall and so many people still believe our governments lies.
2007-07-23 15:28:52
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answered by trent b 4
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Joe DiMaggio put the hit on Jack and Bobby because they murdered the love of his life, Marilyn Monroe.
2007-07-23 15:44:58
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answered by Bruce M 3
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~Strange in what way?
Open tops aren't used anymore. That stopped in Dallas. The secret service tried to stop it that day (or so goes the "official" line). The Vatican continued using them until John Paul got popped on May 13, 1981. Have you watched Jimmy Carter walking down Pennsylvania Ave on was way to his inauguration. He didn't even use a car, with all those tens of thousands of possible shooters lining the streets.
Look at the videos again. Agents are crawling all over the place. They don't start hugging and humping their assignments until shots are fired. Look at the videos of Ronnie Raygun and Gerry Ford. If they are doing their job, you only see them when they make their move.
The forensics as well as the video make it clear that there are no entry wounds in the front. The basic physics proves the bullets came from above and behind.
Motorcades of an unpopular politician in a hostile city, like JFK in Dallas, always go slowly so the candidate can gladhand the hoi poloi and try to make them feel graced by his presence. Interesting, when the passenger gets shot, the driver will sometimes hit the gas. (He doesn't want to take a slug.)
Any fool that can handle a rifle and find cover can take a shot. Heck, the Romans got Ceasar and the Wehrmacht almost got Hitler. Sirhan is rumored to have gotten Jackie's little brother.
Actually, though, the whole Dallas thing is a myth. JFK died of Cushing syndrome, a condition he developed from over 10 years of steroid abuse, with contributing factors being a severe flare-up of his colitis which caused his duodenal ulcer to rupture. He died on November 12, 1963.
Papa Joe knew his favorite son was not going to be well treated by history and Joe also wanted Bobby and Teddy to have their own shots at Pennsylvania Ave. There was a family meeting at Hyannisport on November 15. Momo Giancanna and Sam Trafficanti were also invited. They had worked with and for the Kennedy clan since they rigged the West Virginia primary and Illinois vote. In return for that, Bobby went after Jimmy Hoffa so they could keep their puppet Frank Fitsimmons in the Teamsters presidency.
Joe and Jack had previously hired Jud Watkins, a JFK look-alike that they found through the Scott and Kimberley talent agency to stand in for Jack when he was hospitalized (secretly) or otherwise disabled and not available to make his own appearances. At the meeting, Joe and Bobby commissioned Trafficanti and Momo to take out Watkins in Dallas, thus creating the Kennedy martyrdom and myth. They hired Oswald (of whom they had become aware when Bobby gave them classified FBI and CIA files on potential subversives/assassins). Oswald had been a minor player for the Traficanti Family for about 8 years (thus explaining his interest in and trips to Cuba. It was Oswald who was supposed to have done the hit on Castro for Kennedy - but he had crossed Gambino by promising to set up a heroin pipeline in Turkey but he booked to Russia instead. They did not know he was on the FBI/CIA watchlists as a possible assassin, but when they discovered that, he was the perfect button to whom the contract should be given.
They also hired Jack Ruby, who was beholden to them and on whom Carlo Gambino had already approved a contract, to take out Oswald. Ruby had already been diagnosed with terminal cancer and with or without Gambino's help, he was dead in not more than 18 months. (Ruby had ripped off several of Gambino's hookers from NY and installed them in his Chicago and Dallas clubs, and he refused to pay the vig to Gambino. One doesn't dis the goodfellas like that.)
The secret service was not privvy to the plot, although they were aware of Watkins and Kennedy's health issues. Jackie was at the family meeting. Jack was dead. She wanted her vicarious place in history and went along. Perhaps that's why she felt safe in jumping onto the trunk after the shots rather than to dive for cover on the car floor. Watch the Zapruder film again. Don't you find it curious that she is constantly looking pensive and leaning away from "Jack"?
Momo probably would have been only too happy to go after the real Jack after he caught Jack banging his woman in Sinatra's suite at the Flamingo in January '61, but Carlos Marcello had held Giancanna in check to protect his booze operations (which he shared with Joe Kennedy) up and down the Mississippi and along the Gulf Coast. (The end of prohibition had not taken the profits out of tax free Scotch.)
What do you mean, "What was Kennedy planning". The trip was a blatant campaign trip in preparation for the '64 election and he made a showing in Texas to garner support from John Connley. That didn't work out either because after taking one of Jack's bullets, he switched parties and became a Republican. The trip had been planned and announced in early October. On November 22, Jack wasn't planning anything. He had been dead for 10 days.
Perhaps when the full Warren report is declassified, these facts will come out. My uncle Sidney was an investigator for the commission for about 6 weeks, until he stumbled across parts of the real story, realized a cover-up was being created and threatened to take the whole thing to the Dallas Morning News (he knew the liberal eastern press would kow-tow to the Kennedy clan as always). He was fired and, 3 days later, died in a single car accident while allegedly intoxicated (yeah, right, Sid had a glass of wine with Thanksgiving dinner and otherwise didn't drink. He told his brother, my dad, what he had uncovered but he kept all of his notes with him at all times. They must have been in his car that night, but we never found his briefcase. It may or may not have burned in the wreck. Whether it was or not, I'm sure the notes have long since been destroyed.)
2007-07-23 17:03:54
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answered by Oscar Himpflewitz 7
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