9/11 - anyone still think it was a terrorist strike?

Question

If you believe that terrorist activities were responsible for the atrocities of September 11, 2001, then you can not believe in science, because occurrences of that day were completely and utterly against science as we know it.
Aeroplanes melting on impact.
Fire collapsing STEEL buildings.
Aeroplane crash into the hillside(UA93) disintegrates leaving no sign of human bodies, let alone the plane body.
Al Qaida responsible, why go to war with Iraq?
Mobile phone coverage at 32,000 feet.

To the many who lost loved ones on this day or as a result of the war in Iraq - I send my deepest sympathies to you.

We need answers, and the world needs the truth.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/category.asp?ID=32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc

Never believed in the grassy knoll...I believe in the storm drain which explains the SCIENTIFIC trajectory of the bullet...

And the only other building to fall at WTC was building 7...which had just about every government department you could think of in it! This building was 'pulled.' A technical term for imploding it....now dear friend...who is the dipsh*t now?

Steel in WTC was designed at a higher than normal melting point...standard steel is what you refer to. The coroner in question stated on more than one occasion and in more than report that "He stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because there was not a sign of any human blood." By blood I always took it that he meant signs of human life having been present there.

Answer 1

I don't. 9/11 was an inside job, NO DOUBT.


Never Question Conventional Wisdom
What transcendental intelligence infuses conventional wisdom with such infallibilty that we should never question it? None whatsoever. The problem lies in quite the opposite direction. Conventional wisdom is such an insubstantial will o'the wisp that critical scrutiny often makes it crumble to nothing, nothing at all, leaving neither a residue from which your old belief in it may be reconstituted nor a seed to cultivate so that new belief can be grown.

At which point you are buggered.

You have to believe the Same Old Crap (SOC) as everybody else to get by in society. If you are foolish enough to ask awkward questions and have the SOC unravel on you, what are you going to do? You have three options.

Live the truth, as an outcast.
Live the lie, which is unbearable
Persuade people. Ha.
Every-one else realises that conformity is more precious than truth. It is not that you will be unable to persuade them because they think you are wrong. You will be unable to persuade them because they have more sense than to take the risk of questioning conventional wisdom.

So don't end up like me. Do as I say, not as I do, and do not question conventional wisdom.

http://www.cawtech.freeserve.co.uk/conv_wis.2.html


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“Insanity in individuals is something rare - in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”
~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Answer 2

I did.
But there is so much evidence and first hand accounts coming out now about explosions and power downs and all that. Those buildings really did fall awfully quick and very neatly for their size and structure. They were not simply reduced to rubble like you would expect but all that concrete was dust, just dust. And all the evidence that has disappeared - the black boxes for instances. It doesn't really add up.
There are a lot of police and emergency services people getting really sick now from working on the rescue and clean up in the weeks after who are not getting treated very well.
I hate conspiracy theories but there is something really not right about the the lack of any systematic, transparent and exhaustive investigation.
I really don't know...... either there is something that someone is hiding or they are just plain incompetent.

Answer 3

If you're looking for support for your inaccurate and completely false assumptions, you'll get none here.
I will answer your assumptions, one by one, with valid and verifiable facts:

1. Temperatures in WTC burned at an estimated 1000 -1200 degrees F. Aluminum and magnesium alloys, the stuff airplanes are made of, melts at 800-900 degrees F.

2. Structural steel looses approximately 50% of it's strength at 1100 degrees F. Obviously, it does not need to "melt" to structually fail.

3. No sign of human bodies from Flight 93 was first reported in the original release of Loosechange - it was ommitted in later versions when it was debunked by no less than a coronor who was working at the scene - and who identified at least a dozen passengers in the weeks following the crash, mostly from dental records.

4. The war in Iraq is not directly related to the events of 9/11 - nor was it ever officially stated that there was such a connection - this myth was perpetuated by the need of some politcal opponents to add credibility to their "Bush lied" agenda. The war in Afghanistan most certainly is.

Yes, we need answers - and, yes, we need the truth.
Most questions have been analyzed and researched and answered by experts from all corners of the globe - however, some aspects of these complex events may never be answered - despite the web sites that porport to have all the answers.

ADDED TO DEBUNK YOUR ALLEGED DEBUNKS:

The coronor's name is Wally Miller. Loosechange reported in its first edition that he initially said he had found no bodies or blood at the crash scene - and left it at that. The fact is, in the next several weeks, Miller personally identified a dozen bodies using mostly dental records.
Uninsulated structual steel - the same material used in the WTC construction - looses 50% of its designed strength at approximately 1100 degrees F. The insulation used to help protect this steel was most certainly, and obviously, severely compromised during the collision - These facts can be verified easily with a little research.
This, apparently, isn't the "truth" you are seeking?

Answer 4

Yeah fire collapsed a steel building, a fair number of support beams were destroyed in the collision. Steel begins to loose it's structural integrity at between 800 and 1100 degrees. It didn't need to melt, just warp enough to have the tons of metal and concrete above it make it give way. How do you think swordsmiths and armorers were able to bend steel to their design?

And not all phones were made with cellular service, there were phones on the plane that passengers used to contact the people on the ground. Quit taking the blame away from the terrorists and spitting in the face of brave men and women who fought back against terrorists that day.

Answer 5

How is steel made? With fire. the fire bends the metal into the shape needed. Airplane hits building, fire from the fuel (or does jet fuel not burst into flame) melts steel, steel bend and collapses due to the weight of the concrete floors, all 110 of them. Buildings go down. The earthquake these 110 acres of falling 1 foot thick concrete floors and support steel shake the earth, weakening the structure of nearby buildings forcing another to collapse.

No conspiracy on 9/11 dipshit.

Answer 6

An ISRAELI - BushCo Terrorist Strike - Nodwell
In a nutshell -

The National Reconnaissance Office sent up a satellite on September 8, 2001 and three days later it operated nicely while helping to facilitate the "wargames" that the military was engaged in on 9/11 and all the while we get reports from the U.K.'s online Space News Feed from their weekly edition on the 16th that satellite communications were down all over the planet. I guess the NRO's new baby was somehow immune, OR IT HELPED TO CAUSE IT!

Trivia question: WHO was it that was conducting the war games and where was it happening? Did you say USSPACECOM, otherwise known as NORAD? So close!

Who said USSTRATCOM?!? That's right it happened out of Offutt Air Force Base! NORAD wasn't involved except for the complicit silence of a few senior officers. It was stood DOWN, remember?

Trivia question: WHO was at Offutt AFB that base with a small handful of CEO's from the World Trade Center? That's right! It was Warren Buffet.

WHO did Mitre Corporation (specializing in real time battle command and unmanned aerial vehicles - remote piloting) used to brag having as an investor? Warren Buffet.

WHO was known to be in tight with a Massachusetts firm called Ptech? Mitre Corporation, that's who. Mitre Corp., as a matter of fact, is the spawn of Lincoln Laboratories at MIT, in Massachusettes.

A charity owned by the CIA-employed actor we call Osama, had as a client, Ptech.

And these ARE actors. They work together getting away with crap right in front of us because modern day spooks don't so much hide behind bushes as they hind behind taboos, playing out a drama scripted at the Council on Foreign Relations designed to shaft us and pit us against each other at the same time and by EACH OTHER I mean HUMANS (reinforcement of the existence of racial tension with disinformation designed to keep people apart).

911 "Wargames" Insider Now in Charge of CIA
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/911-wargames-insider-now-in-charge-of.html

9/11: A Revolution in Military Affairs
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/911-revolution-in-military-affairs.html

9/11 and Echelon: Key Players Unearthed
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/911-and-echelon-key-players-unearthed.html

Mitre Corp., Ptech, Controlled Opposition, and the Internet
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/mitre-corp-ptech-controlled-opposition.html

Boeing's Phantom Works, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV's), and 9/11
http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/boeings-phantom-works-unmanned-aerial_18.html

Damning Evidence of Warren Buffet
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/buffet.html

Falls Church, VA and 9/11
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/FallsChurch.html

Al Qaeda is a Hoax
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/alqaeda.html

9-11: Mitre Corp., Warren Buffet, Global Hawk, and September 11, 2001
http://memes.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1663

Bush and Buffett Convergence on 911? -- We Demand Some Answers
http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/buffett.htm

Bush and Buffett in Cahoots on 911
http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/buffett.htm

The Propaganda Preparation for 9/11
Pentagon Fraud Chief Dov Zakheim Goes to BoozAllen
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=70&contentid=1222&page=2

Answer 7

Sir, you are a real dud and best wake up and smell the roses. Thousands of gallons of jet fuel will melt a plane amigo and an ant pile. I have a suspicions that you have been smoking too many left handed cigarettes and are in a purple haze.

Answer 8

Thank god for internet.

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/misinformation.html

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=pubs-english&y=2007&m=March&x=20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf


I'm puzzled why people are skeptic enough to not believe the gov, but they put their faith on internet and 'scholars' who never played any part in actual investigation other than looking at few videos and internet photos.

Answer 9

I'm Anti-Bush
I'm Anti-Iraq

BUT above all I am Anti-conspiracy theories re sept 11th.

EDIT: I just wanted to add .. A person can be anti-Bush and Anti-iraq and ANTI-CONSPIRACY THEORY ....

we don't need the tin-foil brigade to make a point... Infact you guys tend to reduce OUR credibility.. so please ..buggar off.

Answer 10

Yep, and all those people on the planes who called their loved ones as they were about to die were in on it!