So what does everyone think about them changing the Bill of Rights?

Question

Bush’s July 17 “Executive Order”

This definitly effects our Constitution!

So we have lost our right to privacy!

Now we have lost the freedom of speech, to be able to protest!

I basically says that anyone protesting the war or saying 9/11 was an inside job can have their bank accounts frozen and their personal property taken away?


They issued it in another language, but it has that same effect on American's who wish to speak out against the war!

And these Con's still say that it isn't a threat to our Constitution!

Wake up America!

I protest this “Order,” which itself is in flagrant violation of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which guarantees the right to freedom of speech, the press, and to protest, despite the fact that that right has been violated by various courts in various eras in contentious situations like the one we have today.

Constitution and the laws of the United States of America.” Remember the Constitution is the document Bush called “just a goddamned piece of paper,” as he went forth to dismiss the right of habeas corpus and fought for renewal of the illegal USAPATRIOT Act.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Explain why I need a tinfoil hat -

This is fact retard

Or don't you read the headlines anymore

The enemy - who is that these days - really!

I thought the attacks came from the Middle East

So why is everything they are doing effecting the American citizen and always involve changing the Bill of Rights and The Constitution?!

If it is a foreign problem - it should effect foreign law - not the rights of American citizens!

Just becaus ethe layman can't see through the smoke of Government language - it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that it effects us all!

Yet, in this new illegal stroke of a pen Bush outlaws all protest in the United States against his scurrilous Iraq war. And with this law, he turns all of us (US) who do not nod in bobble-doll agreement with him into “the enemy." That is, if any act [of ours], provision of funds, goods, or services by [which can he mean anything], to, or for the benefit of same threatens the ‘stabilization of Iraq,’ which can equally mean anything.

Answer 1

This has been happening for years....I was squawking about it when Clinton was doing the same thing with EO 12919, putting technology sales with Dept. of Commerce, instead of the State Dept. He started the contract with KBR back in '96!!!!......This has been going on since Wilson passed the Federal Reserve Act.....Welcome aboard the conspiracy train...But I'll bet you were one of the one's castigating me during the Clinton years...Clinton, with 12919 secured the infrastructure through FEMA, and Bushes NPSD 51 does the same for logistics....It's not about Dem vs. Rep. or Lib vs. Con....It's about power brokers and their serfdom....It just so happens that you're a lib and it's Bush doing it. What were you saying when Clinton was doing the same thing? Chances are you weren't in the political process then and now you are. I'm not saying I agree with Bush, or that I even support him, but to concentrate solely on one administration, when this has been going on for years seems partisan, trite and ignorant. When you get the blinders off and quit looking at this as "The Evil Cons or Rep." and realize that the upper echelon, Right, Left, whatever, isn't out for your best interests...Let me know...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56014
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55923

THE HEGEL-GOEBBELS DIALECTIC:
SYNTHESIS, ANTITHESIS, THESIS

SYNTHESIS: Figure out what sort of power you want and all the neat things you could do if you had it (but don't tell anybody this part).

ANTI-THESIS: Identify the subgroup and/or object set that you can sacrifice to the attainment of the synthesis, keeping in mind the inherent xenophobic, anti-materialist, and anti-intellectual bias of the general population in their manifold ignorance and in their elevation of creature comfort over hard-edged principles (but don't tell anybody this part).

THESIS: Postulate and publicize the foregone conclusion that the chosen subgroup and/or object set is responsible for whatever ails the nation (which problems are never in short supply), and that if only we had sufficient societal fortitude and will to forthrightly address the problem by sacrificing a few trivial privileges and "rights" that only egghead intellectuals and overzealous ruffian yahoos who oversimplify and distort the complicated abstract conclusions of the pointy-heads could possibly really care about anyway, all the while demonizing the chosen target by making up and incessantly repeating various pejorative labels about them and the boldest sort of patently absurd Big Lies to discredit THEM as not being deserving of the slightest sympathy or regard of the good, docile, and obedient citizens that WE good burghers know WE are (tell everybody this part).

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-- H.L. Mencken

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-1QjXIHIweLFD5T2wUKs-?cq=1&p=80

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-1QjXIHIweLFD5T2wUKs-?cq=1&p=74

Answer 2

I've read the order.. Its specific about material and financial assistance to the resistance in Iraq. Not a single mention of protests, limiting political speech, etc.

But its pretty impressive as to how the Dems could convince their followers that its an assault on the 1st amendment. The Reps just did the EXACT same thing with the hate-crimes bill. (Neither one mentions restrictions on political speech ONCE, yet I've seen partisans on both sides crying that they aren't free to express opinions anymore.)

I guess they know the vast majority of the population will push their agenda without even bothering to look at the text of the actual government policy. Its a sad state.

Answer 3

I just read the Executive Order -- where does it say that anyone protesting the war or saying 9/11 was an inside job can have their bank accounts frozen and their personal property taken away? Let me answer that for you: IT'S NOT IN THERE. People who spread obvious lies and untruths or half-truths and are willing to fabricate false evidence against our elected leaders are more of a threat to liberty than Dubya could ever be. Open your own eyes!!!

Answer 4

The Bill of Rights was never meant to give people the right to say anything they want to. If anyone could provide evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, I think he/ she could get away with writing or saying it was an inside job. No one can prove that it was because that isn't true. I haven't heard that people have lost the right to protest. I suspect that it depends on what they are protesting and how they are going about it. Can you provide evidence that 9/11 was an inside job? I don't mean quoting someone else's untrue accusations.

Answer 5

If it is by the coalition government it will be a complete mess. You will get idiots like that peer who wanted Authorities to give fraudsters 7 days notice of any documents they needed to seize.

Answer 6

What a stretch you just made. "Said it in another language". Are you folks that desparate?
How about FDR, the "Father of Modern Liberalism" putting 250,000 American Citizens in Prison Camps after Pearl Harbor?
War "Protests" go on here everydat. Under FDR, you would have been in Prison.
It's the Left that are trying to stop Free Speech dude.
Get a grip.

Answer 7

Want a tissue? I'm sure I can find one that matches your tinfoil hat lol....

Aww, did I touch a nerve you sad pathetic little fool? It's ok, rage all you want I'll just keep laughing at you along with many many others. Oh and unlike you I not only read the headlines I also read the articles. I know, novel idea you might want to try it sometime...

Answer 8

You have misread the executive order which prohibits providing aide to the enemy. Some people see conspiracies everywhere.

Answer 9

Nice venting, but what is the "order"? Can you link to it?

Answer 10

We should all circle-jerk.