Good morning. Mitt Romney said that Hillary's economic plan was that of Karl Marx, the socialist. Agree?

Question

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-07-22-romney-dems_N.htm#uslPageReturn

"It would be helpful to have a person leading the country who understands how the economy works and has actually managed something," the former Massachusetts governor told reporters after a GOP fundraiser. "In the case of the three Democratic front-runners, not one of them has managed even a corner store, let alone a state or a city."

"I wanted to focus on the Democrats," he said. "By and large, the best way to further my interest is to let people know what I would do and to distinguish that from what the Democrats would do."

His prime target was Clinton.

"Hillary Clinton just gave a speech the other day about her view on the economy. She said we have been an on-your-own society. She said it's time to get rid of that and replace that with shared responsibility and we're-in-it-together society," Romney told the crowd. "That's out with Adam Smith and in with Karl Marx."

Answer 1

Absolutely. Anyone who steps back and looks at all of her plans could see the huge Communist influence in her positions.

Answer 2

Karl Marx described himself as a scientific socialist. This was as opposed to a Christian socialist. There were socialists before Marx. I do not know whether Karl Marx would regard Hillary as one of his. He would probably reject Obama on racist grounds. My view is that in ordinary language - outside esoteric discussions of socialism - Obama and Hillary are both Marxists.

Answer 3

Mr. Romney states the obvious. Anyone who does not know that Hillary Clinton is a socialist just is not paying attention.

Socialism is a Godless, all powerful, centrally controlled form of government that relies heavily on lies and twisted logic to fool the lower income people into believing they will be well taken care of. Nothing is farther from the truth. Capitalism is the philosophy of equal opportunity. Socialism is equal results. These equal results are achieved by jamming everyone into a mould of sameness. Where Capitalism lauds the individual and rewards effort and achievement socialism forbids individuality and retards effort and achievement.

Socialist governments eliminate God and substitute moral relativism which is simply the elimination of morality. This allows the state to take whatever action they see fit regardless of the effects it has on individual people even if that means killing disabled or elderly unproductive people. The collective is all important, the individual unimportant.

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Answer 4

I suspect that Romney is merey using the word socialism against Hillary in an effort to frighten Americans who still think that the Soviet Union and China were socialist. Of course, they were Stalinist. As Trotsky pointed out, Stalin represented the counter revolution to the Bolshevik Revolution. In fact, it was Stalin who had the leaders of the Bolshevik imprisoned and executed -- including the architect of the revolution, Trotsky himself. Trotsky wrote at length about Stalin in The Revolution Betrayed, which can be found on the internet. Trotsky correctly predicted in the 1930s that Stalinism would revert to back to capitalism. If Romney doesn't know this history, he certainly doesn't deserve to be president. If he does know this history and calls Hillary a socialist for political gain, he doesn't deserve to be president.

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Excerpt from Albert Einstein's "Why Socialism"

Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.

Answer 5

well there's a difference between talking the talk and walking the walk. we're-in-it together society while sounds pretty cool if it can be achieved, the important thing is to know whether USA is ready for it. and most importantly, there's no way HILARY CLINTON is going to be in a economic plan of karl marx, all she cares about is the power and money.

Answer 6

No. that is also the cornerstone of democracy, for the people and by the people - stating a united front. besides, Adam Smith never thought of the economy as an on-your-own society for specialization also heeds great coordination... and i dont think Mrs. Clinton is dreaming up a Communist country even by how Marx really defines it...

Answer 7

No, Romney's conclusion isn't even supported by his own quotes from Hillary

And Romney wasn't really a manager. He made money by merging companies and laying off thousands of employees, then turning around and selling the new companies at a profit. That's not management or running an organization, it's short term profiteering.

Answer 8

Agree 100%

Jacob W. -- Thank you for stating my thoughts in a way that I could not. You are a brilliant man. I feel sorry for anyone that actually believes the lie that socialism actually helps people. Subsidies offer just what their name implies - mere subsistance. I for one do not want that kind of life.

Trevor S. -- You are clueless my friend. You merely regurgitated what you have been fed about socialism. It looks as if you copy-and-pasted that off of Marxist website. What you leave out (and what all supporters of socialism leave out) is HOW the result is achieved. The sad part is losers who want socialism to "help" them never bother asking this unanswerable question. They just hold their hand out.

Answer 9

why should I care about anything Mitt Romney said after some of the VILE things he said during his campaign.

Answer 10

no. of course not. only an idiot would buy into this garbage. thing is he sees that is where the powerful surge of voters are going, and he sees all these social defects who rail against her. he's hoping to garner swing votes from that crowd.

it's time people look at the facts and form their own opinions. above, i see several who have been unable to do that. you can tell because they do not write their own words here, but rather the opinions of others.

(but don, right above, seems to have an opinion. i like that).

be willing to bet that none of the yesmen above have a clue what karl marx's economic theories were, or his solutions, or why. and too they probably have no clue what hilly's plan is.

i'm no hilly clinton supporter mind you. but it's not her economic plan. and not 'cause she's a women, kinda like to see a woman break into the office. just that i favor someone else.

Answer 11

Socialism is a democratic government led by the working class which promotes the best interests of society rather than the pursuit of profits. Socialism is the working class counter to the evils inflicted upon them by capitalism.

Hillary Clinton, as Romney very well knows, is a thorough-going capitalist. In fact, Hillary Clinton has roots in the Republican Party for anyone who checks her biography. She was a Goldwater supporter while in high school and president of the Young Republicans while attending Wellesley College.