"Fighting them there (Iraq) so they won't attack us here (U.S.)"?

Question

What does this mean? Do you believe it?

Follow-up: If you believe this statement to be true, are you also saying that our troops in Iraq are acting like a giant magnet for the terrorists?

Does anyone else find this argument repulsive and ridiculous?

Answer 1

That is the biggest bunch of BS every foisted on the American People. Think about it! Iraq had no terrorists! Would you fight a battle in your neighbors home that had nothing to do with it? Well over 600,000 Iraqis have been killed now, yet it was the only country in the middle east that didn't have terrorists. Just who are we killing there? People like yourself perhaps that would fight a foreign army on their soil tooth and nail. Wake up. This stuff is even worst than it been presented to us. The New York City police department could have done a much better job at catching terrorists than Bush, and done it at one thousandth of the cost. This was a crime, pure and simple, but was used to escalate us into a very profitable war for a few. I believe our leaders need to be impeached, put on trial, and sent to prison, or even executed if merited. This is murder and high treason, and done for money and power. Nothing is more low down and dirty. It's put blood on all our hands. We have been taken over by nothing less than pure evil. I'm not sure who said this, maybe Roosevelt or Truman, but its just as true today. "When fascism comes to America, it will be carrying a bible and wrapped in a flag." It's arrived and its name is George Bush. The terrible thing is, is that we really do have enemies now, dangerous ones, and very few friends. We've allowed the greed and avarice of a few to destroy what it took two hundred years and the lives of countless honest men and women to build.

Answer 2

It is based on the assumptions that (1) all terrorists in the world are in Iraq, and (2) that our actions in Iraq will occupy the full attention of all terrorists.

Both of those are so irrationally non-sensical that it's shocking anyone can make the argument with a straight face.

Let's start with the fact that even the Bush regime acknowledges that Al Qaeda is based on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Meaning our efforts in Iraq cannot have any effect on stopping them.

Nor will our presence in Iraq deter the terrorists that are already located in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iran, England, Italy, Singapore and the US.

So, the concept is roughly equivalent to claiming that we can stop all the criminals in the world by boarding up one house in one neighborhood in eastern Chicago.

Answer 3

ok lets stay on topic ...i noticed a lot of tangents here and confused souls

it means to fight the terrorist on their own turf and in turn they will not be able to fight us in america if they are all wrapped up in iraq fighting the american military.

do i belive it.....NO!!!!!!!!!!!
it may have worked if at first we took away their AK-47 and arms
we are fighthing a cell thats world wide and at first it was thought it would be easy ...but we under estimated the resitance in iraq....
plus most of this money comes from other countries to help destableize iraq .....
plus if you look at it internally we the soldiers are just inbetween stopping a civil war......

most of the money we spent over here could of fixed homleand security 2 folds over....
my other observation is that ....have us over here to fight leaving american wide open for attack.....weaken our forces due to long deployments......as i see it america is wide open right now and this could be their long term tatic.....

Answer 4

It was not bad enough that Harry Reid announced to the world that we lost the war in Iraq when that is not true and while we have men and women in harm’s way but now he and Nancy Pelosi have sent a letter to President Bush telling him that the troop surge has been a failure and that they intend to introduce legislation to withdraw our troops. This will be vetoed by the President and once again the Democrats will have wasted time trying to usurp the President’s authority. The gruesome twosome point to increased violence and more US deaths as the indication of failure. I thought they were supposed to wait for the report from the Commander of the troops due out in September before they took any decisions. As usual, the Democrats had to cut and run early at the first signs of perceived troubles. Perhaps it would be prudent for them to wait for the report from the guy who is actually on the ground watching what is happening rather then sitting in an office ingesting the spun tripe provided by the MSM.

I imagine that Reid and Pelosi had to do this again because of all the grief they received after the last bill but I also believe they have to try and show that Harry was wrong when he said that the Democrats had set the bar too high with regard to Iraq. In that statement he told America that Democrats do not understand the situation and that it is much more complex than the Democrats imagined. This statement is an admission that they either lied or were not up to the leadership challenges presented. They made claims that they could not follow through on and now they are blaming it on the slim majority they have. They can not override a veto so they blame it on everything except their inherent inability to lead and their inborn cowardice.

What is it with these idiots anyway? Most Americans want out but want us to win and yet the Dems insist on a course of action that will render us a loss. Are the Democrats so out of touch with the average citizen that they have lost all perception of reality? More likely their blind ambition, stupidity, and insatiable quest for power has consumed them so greatly that they are incapable of common sense or rational thought.

I propose my own bill with regard to the Iraq war. This bill is Democrat friendly and they can sign on because they are so sure they know what they are doing. The US will set a date for withdraw of our fighting forces and will leave NO ONE in that country. Not police, not logistics, not anything, just as the Dems want it. If after that date violence among the sects breaks out, or there is a civil war, or if the Middle East is further destabilized then every Democrat in Congress will immediately resign and forfeit all claims to retirement or other monies from the government. If the US is attacked by terrorists after this date, every member who voted for the bill will be executed as a traitor for aiding and abetting the enemy. Very simple wording and a good lawyer can work it up so there is no wiggle room, no way out.

Now, if the Democrats are so sure they know what is best then they will sign on immediately. If they really have the courage of their convictions they will sign the bill and get our troops home just like they promised their drones. If they will not sign on to it then they lose the right to debate the issue further and must allow us to go in without strict rules of engagement and wipe out the bad guys including those from Syria, Iran and any other little kitty litter box country in the region.

What say you Democrats? Do you have the courage of your convictions? You are pretty mouthy and loose with words when they affect the safety and well being of our troops but are you willing to put a plan in place that places you in jeopardy? I think not.

Answer 5

You look cute in your photo from what i can see but no more blood for oil or religous differencense.Stop concentrating on the war against the world when we still pay for health care dental care taxes starving children hiv prostitution drugs not marijuana. Sense were there now we need to draft infiltrate As many soldiers as we can gather to get our oil cheaper piss off other mussilim countries get nuked by north korea and stormed by china while were all in a poinless war when we should of bombed the hell I mean hell out of Iraq and afgahnistan and been done with it

Answer 6

No, Al-Qaeda is not a threat to our intelligence. We know every thing and where the live, train. The biggest threat we have in America are militia groups that are resistant to what they believe is illegal authority. The freedoms to our citizens have been on the decline for years now. The undocumented population is also a threat to our security.

Answer 7

We should be fighting them in Pakistan, where the terroristst who attacked America now have a safe haven, thanks to Bush's dereliction of duty.

Answer 8

I agree I think it is ridiculous what they should say is soldiers are a lot more dispensable than civilians because that is basically what it means.

Answer 9

No, I do not believe it.

See the anthrax killer(s) and the beltway snipers as examples.

And look how many cons are on YA and NOT in iraq fighting!

Answer 10

yes, i do. the spin doctors are at work. what they mean is that the oil is there, and not here.

hey barebeck, reid's comment was this; the war is lost unless there is a new strategy. you are talking about sean hannity's out of context version.