Two objections regarding the Harry Potter series (no fanboys, fangirls please)?

Question

I very much like the Harry Potter series except for two main aspects of the books:
1) J.K. Rowling has given way too much credit to Harry. In fact, hes probably the biggest jerk Ive ever encountered in fiction. I was reading Deathly Hallows and theres a certain incident where Ron appears after abandoning Harry and subsequently saves Harry's life. For all that, Harry appraises (as if hes qualified to appraise anybody) Ron: "You've sort of made up for it tonight. Getting the *spoiler*. Finishing off the *spoiler*. Saving my life."

2) Why in every book does Rowling have to introduce a new sort of "relic" that the books central plot revolves around? Clearly that reveals the fallibility of the overall plot.

At least if ppl dont entirely agree with the second objection, the first one should be quite evident given the plethora of damning evidence ever since the fifth book.

okay let me make this very clear, my least favorite character in the series is harry potter himself. Why, you ask? He takes sole credit for tasks that he wouldnt have nearly been able to complete without the aid of some1 around him. Yet everyone regards him as a messiah, at least the first 3 or 4 ppl (fangirls) who answered this question.
Harry was appraising Ron and there was no evidence of sarcasm, otherwise JK Rowling would have indicated so. The nerve it just effing irritates me.

rowling gives way too much credit to harry, thats the first objection.

the 2nd is that she cant develop a sound plot w/o introducing another "relic" in the succeeding book in the series

Answer 1

I do sort of agree with you. I haven't finished the 7th yet (my son won't give it back) but I thought the worst was the 5th. He WAS so whinny. I have never re-read that one. I think in the instance you are talking about, with Ron he may have been being sarcastic.
The relics are OK I like them. I just don't understand how a normal person would find the Horacrux objects. It was OK for Dumbledore. He was really old and a frekin genius....but a 17 yr old boy...not gonna happen!

Answer 2

I think that Harry is one of the most REALISTIC teenage boys in fiction. He isn't perfect, he's human. He gets his feelings hurt when his best friend criticizes him and abandons their quest. If someone you cared about took of and left you when you needed them most, wouldn't you care?

He has spent so much of his time at Hogwarts being second guessed and put under a microscope. I know that I wouldn't deal well with being on the cover of a newspaper, with blatant lies about my character and actions. Particularly if it happened at 15 years old! That is such a tough age to be at. Most kids just have to deal with acne and relationships, and this guy is expected to save the world from evil!

I think that it is such a difficult situation to place a kid in. For me, it would ruin it if he managed to handle all that stress perfectly. It just isn't real.

I don't really understand your second point, though. How does having magical objects in a magical world make the plot fallible?

Edited to add:
I don't think I've ever seen Harry take sole credit for what happens. From the very first book, he has had to rely on his friends and family to help him along the way. That's the entire POINT of the series-- that love and friendship are the most important tools for defeating evil!

As far as the relics go, they are a PART of the plot! I mean, if all Harry had to do was walk up to Voldemort and curse him, it wouldn't be a very interesting series, would it? The challenges that he has to face and grow from are what make the stories worth reading.

Answer 3

Well I saw that first part myself and did a double take, I really do belive he was joking, he was just happy his friend was back.

Potter is supposed to be a likeable hero but like all good ones has some flaws.


And the second part, I usualy have no idea what the title means until I am at least 2/3 of the way through.

One thing that did peeve me in this book was that the pace was funny she would spend like 4 chapters on one place spaning 3 days then abouta paragraph about 3 weeks. I am just not used to that.

Answer 4

well, for the second question, Harry is tied to Voldemort, who is pursuing various strong magical artifacts. I take it you're talking about the names of the different books, right? So how else would you expect her to get names for these things? Harry Potter and the Hunt for Voldemort, Part VII doesn't seem like such a compelling title. I feel like each book was a different layer of the overall story, and those artifacts were only markers of harry's path.

bleh, i'm incoherent, I think....

Answer 5

I don care what you say I'm a big fan of Potter
Plus the books name is HARRY POTTER why do you think Rowling should give more credit to Ron!
i.e I love Ron as well.

Answer 6

Give ME A BREAK...HOW MANY PAGES in order of the Phoenix and this last book does Harry say he's lucky? Isn't the whole premise of this book that Dumbledore orchestrates Harry's entire existence?

GO BACK RE-READ YOU GIT!!

Answer 7

i thought he was a jerk at times in the 4th and 5th books, but he was young..... i liked him a lot in these past 2 books. can you elaborate on why you think hes a jerk? any more examples?

and i guess thats just the way the plot is...

Answer 8

he was being sarcastic. like...he was speechless and then he just said that to lighten the mood. i mean he almost died. he wasnt trying to appraise ron.

Answer 9

because, it's her books, and she can do what she wants to with them.