Sick of religion and politics?

Question

Personally I belive what the founders had in mind was not freedom of religion, that you could have any kind you wanted, but rather freedom FROM religion.
Thats what I want. I want to be free of all religions. I deeply resent CNN having their "faith and politics" segments where they discuss religion and politics in the same breath. Why do they do that? Thats just bringing the two closer together, and legitimizing religion in politics.
I say keep religion totally out. A persons faith means nothing to me. Nothing at all.
I wouldn't want to hear a preacher talking about politics. I would say that was not his calling. Preahers shoud minister to the souls of the weak and needy and leave the electorate alone. Politicians can know nothing of God. Politics and Religion are mutually exclusive. If religion and politics do come together it is under sharia law. We don't want that either. God never took a vote on anything.
Please, leave God out of it.

kveryeffective: You are sure one to tell me about reading a little more history. It was the christians who brought the slaves to this country in the first place. I suppose you think they were born again and then they sparked to idea to free them?

Toota: I think faith based initiatives being pushed at us by this administration is imposed religion. I never voted for it and it is just exactly what the founders wanted us to be free from, wasn't it now?

Dick W. says, "The only thing the founding fathers wanted to do was make sure the government did not declare any religion as the "state religion". That is what they escaped from in England".

Dick, the founding fathers did not escape from england. They were born here and england never prescribed any form of religion in the colonys. It was the christians themselves that murdered the "Non Christians" (indians). Thus imposing their own religion on others. It was O.K. for them to do it wasn't it?

Answer 1

"Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. "-Thomas Paine

"To see by faith, shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin

"The experience of the United States is a happy disproof of the error so long rooted in the unenlightened minds of well-meaning Christians, as well as in the corrupt hearts of persecuting usurpers, that without a legal incorporation of religious and civil polity, neither could be supported. A mutual independence is found most friendly to practical Religion, to social harmony, and to political prosperity." (James Madison Letter to F.L. Schaeffer, Dec 3, 1821).

"The settled opinion here is, that religion is essentially distinct from civil Government, and exempt from its cognizance; that a connection between them is injurious to both;" (James Madison Letter to Edward Everett, Montpellier, March 18, 1823).

"The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man." - Thomas Jefferson to Jeremiah Moor, 1800.

"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It Neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Protestant church, nor by any other church that I know of. My own mind is my own church." - Thomas Paine

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the Word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world ..." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind ... to filch wealth and power to themselves. [They], in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." - Abraham Lincoln

"Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other religions,may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" -- James Madison, "Memorial and Remonstrance," 1785.

Answer 2

This whole thing is upside down and just plain wrong. The only thing the founding fathers wanted to do was make sure the government did not declare any religion as the "state religion". That's all that whole thing means. That is what they escaped from in England.

As for their own religious beliefs, both Washington and Jefferson declared themselves to be "Deists". Meaning they believe in God but not man's teachings about God nor government mandated religion.

Answer 3

I see exactly what you mean.I am a Christian but I think It is a private choice.I cannot stand nor do i watch the Preachers on TV too and the use religion to get money.Scam artist.
I understand because sometimes all i want is a cigarette in a little corner of my world and I cannot do this.That is not freedom for me.

All we can hope for is other people will start feeling that way and stop watching. Ratings will fall.I wish I had the answer.It is getting very tiresome.

Answer 4

Our founders wanted to be sure we were free from Imposed Religion, meaning the Church of England, not freedom from religion as you seem to believe.

Religion is held in esteem by many and their right to it is assured by the Constitution.

Change the channel.

Answer 5

Well you take the exact opposite position of our Nations founders.
The idea was to prevent government prescribing a certain religion to the exclusion of others.
You affront our founders in another area as well, suggesting that our free press should not be allowed...to be free.

Answer 6

If faith based laws are kept out of our justice system, you can have freedom from religion, just by turning off the TV, when something religious comes on.
You can't resent CNN from wanting to capitalize off faith, when everyone else is doing the same thing. They are a business you know.

And the best way to make sure someone isn't talking about something you dislike, around you, is to walk away. Your choice to stay in that area, is what is allowing them to talk about it around you.

Answer 7

If a person's faith doesn't matter to you, then why can't a preacher talk about politics around you? We have freedom in this country, just like it says, not what you think they meant, and you are free to change the channel. They even titled it, so you would know when to change the channel

Answer 8

I suggest you read a bit more history first before you start changing words in the Consitution.
We are free to excerise our religion.
It was men of religion that started the spark to end slavery in the South.
It was men of religion who started the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's Martin Luther King Jr a minster.
There is long history in this country were people of BOTH parties been in churches.
There is no call of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton to be removed from politics both minsters.
Yet is Pat Robertson says something liberals are all over it about sepration of church and state (BTW is not in the Consitution).
Why is that?
We do have Freedom of Speech in this country and people who want to express their faith in public should.
President Clinton mention G-d and spoke in more churches than Bush and no major calls for him to stop.

I think people like you have only one thing on your mind to silence conservatives by any means possible.

Not in my country and I don't want liberals stop either.

We you start cutting people out of the debate you are heading into very dangerous direction for this country.

So stop tampering with the Bill of Rights and respect other views and be a bit more open minded.

Abraham Lincoln: "I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good from the Savior of the world is communicated to us through this book."

W. E. Gladstone: "I have known ninety-five of the world's great men in my time, and of these eighty-seven were followers of the Bible. The Bible is stamped with a Specialty of Origin, and an immeasurable distance separates it from all competitors."

George Washington: "It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible."

Napoleon: "The Bible is no mere book, but a Living Creature, with a power that conquers all that oppose it."

Queen Victoria: "That book accounts for the supremacy of England."

Daniel Webster: "If there is anything in my thoughts or style to commend, the credit is due to my parents for instilling in me an early love of the Scriptures. If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity."

Thomas Carlyle: "The Bible is the truest utterance that ever came by alphabetic letters from the soul of man, through which, as through a window divinely opened, all men can look into the stillness of eternity, and discern in glimpses their far-distant, long-forgotten home."

John Ruskin: "Whatever merit there is in anything that I have written is simply due to the fact that when I was a child my mother daily read me a part of the Bible and daily made me learn a part of it by heart."

Charles A. Dana: "The grand old Book still stands; and this old earth, the more its leaves are turned and pondered, the more it will sustain and illustrate the pages of the Sacred Word."

Thomas Huxley: "The Bible has been the Magna Charta of the poor and oppressed. The human race is not in a position to dispense with It."

W. H. Seward: "The whole hope of human progress is suspended on the ever growing influence of the Bible."

Patrick Henry: 'The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."

U. S. Grant: "The Bible is the sheet-anchor of our liberties."

Horace Greeley: "It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people. The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom."

Andrew Jackson: "That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."

Robert E. Lee: "In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength."

Lord Tennyson: "Bible reading is an education in itself."

John Quincy Adams: "So great is my veneration for the Bible that the earlier my children begin to read it the more confident will be my hope that they will prove useful citizens of their country and respectable members of society. I have for many years made it a practice to read through the Bible once every year."

Immanuel Kant: "The existence of the Bible, as a book for the people, is the greatest benefit which the human race has ever experienced. Every attempt to belittle it is a crime against humanity."

Charles Dickens: "The New Testament is the very best book that ever was or ever will be known in the world."

Sir William Herschel: "All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more and more strongly the truths contained in the Sacred Scriptures."

Sir Isaac Newton: "There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history."

Goethe: "Let mental culture go on advancing, let the natural sciences progress in ever greater extent and depth, and the human mind widen itself as much as it desires, beyond the elevation and moral culture of Christianity, as it shines forth in the gospels, it will not go."

Answer 9

Hmmmm.

'Politicians can know nothing of God.'

Okay, you are entitled to your personal beliefs.....

Answer 10

Sick of religion and politics,then turn your life
over to Jesus Christ!