Can we seriously accept "facts" and "logic" from the people who think Creationism is science?

Question

Doesn't this basically destroy any credibility the theocons might have?

Answer 1

Not when it comes to issues involving creation. They may freely use technology and medicine brought to us by science, but still reject all evidence and proof of evolution. And, they may be logical and reasonable on other matters which do not involve religion or science. People are inconsistent like that.

Answer 2

God designed the human brain and the people who make the instruments to measure the age of things .
If God wants you to think the universe is 14 billion years old and was not created by his hand 6000 years ago then its a test .
Who do you believe Gods Word or that of someone he is using to test your faith .
2+2= 4 right or is that just what we accept cause we are told that and use numbers to represent objects . God knows that I need the money more then he does Cause every time I toss him some he lets it land back by me .
Once I through it up in a crowd and he decided that they needed it more then I did .
So now I offer it to him privately and so far he has taken nothing .

Answer 3

Their addiction to carbon dating as a method used to determine the age of the earth shows a dogmatic ignorance thats difficult to approach logically. The age of the earth is clearly defined from multiple isotope decays and it would be basically impossible for modern nuclear physics to work as it does without these basic facts correct.
The notion that dinosaurs coexisted with man has no basis either but they persist in this at their museum. I think the world laughs hysterically. I think any america basher that wants a great laugh references that place frequently.
The notion that the flood as an alternate explaination for the Grand Canyon is even worth printing further discredits them.

Theocons have had their time in office and the final result is thousands buried in Iraq, trillions added to the national debt, a culture of turture in our CIA that is validated from the bottom up of the executive branch of the government. Not that torture never occured in the past but its never been an american value.

above me.... where did god come from? The idea that where did the big bang come from begs the same question of your worthless world view.

Answer 4

So where did The Big Bang come from? Science still hasn't come up with something for that one.

There are a large number of Christians and Jews who get both sides of it. You will find far more Christians and Jews who will state that the universe is only something like 6,000 years old, wash over fossils, etc, etc.

I believe that Torah was given by God to Moses on Mt. Sinai. However, He gave Torah to a people so primative that He had to tell them things like don't murder because I said so, don't steal because I said so, don't lie because I said so.

Once things settle down, once they get to where they are going, they are going to ask a simple question. "Where do we come from?" Do you honestlly believe that a people who have to be told that it is wrong to lie, steal, and kill are ready for advanced sciences? However, he has to tell them something, so he gives them something they can understand. And if you take the science theories and apply them in stages to creation, they more or less line up on a very general level.

I realize that thinking for themselves is not something that many people who love to hammer on opposing views are good at. I mean, they were told something, it made sense to them, what the bleep is wrong with everyone else? I mean, it's right there, they have been told so, right there.
So, was I talking about science, or about religion? Most things people take as fact on both things are only what other people told them and they believe. "Oh, but science can be proven." Fine, go out and prove nuclear fission. "It's all around us, in power plants and in bombs." No, that's what you were told, and what you believe. Have you seen nuclear fission? If it's out there, then go out and prove it for yourself.

Answer 5

Would a scientist who created a new life form believe in creationism?

Answer 6

No.

Just because someone may come to a conclusion we disagree with on one issue doesn't mean they are incapable of logic or correct factual attribution on every issue.

Creationism is being promoted because these people believe in their religious teachings. And if our country allowed religion to be govt-sponsored, then they would absolutely be entitled to their vote to do so.

But just because they are incorrect as a matter of law in one area doesn't mean they are stupid or incapable of rational discussion in any other area.

Answer 7

What they believe about creation or evolution has nothing to do with other subjects.

Answer 8

They do not believe its science, but a matter of faith. There is a difference between science and faith that they adhere to, but many do not comprehend.

Answer 9

Only if you still believe in Santa Claus

Answer 10

Sure we can - as soon as they provide peer-reviewed scientific reports on what they believe. Until then, we can believe what we know is correct, and not what they BELIEVE is correct, which is an entirely different matter.