Dan Patrick and thousands of others support pardons for these men.
http://hecubus.wordpress.com/2006/10/18/ignacio-ramos-and-jose-compean-illegal-immigration-heroes/
I do not necessarily agree with the ENTIRE article and nether should you but this is SO WRONG!
WILL WE LET THEM DOWN?
2007-07-21 08:02:01 · 12 answers · asked by acct10132002 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
I hope Bush will do that.
2007-07-21 08:04:06 · answer #1 · answered by RICARDVS VII 3 · 7⤊ 2⤋
Responsibility and living up to responsibility are two different things. We cannot allow the law to be circumvented on the strength of someones assigned responsibility. Perhaps they are responsible for protecting the border, but if they break the law, that responsibility shouldn't absolve them from punishment.
Furthermore, the law cannot not be subjected to our emotional attachment to a situation. If my son/daughter broke the law, I'll march their narrow *** down to the police station and turn them in-and they are my flesh and blood. Why? Because that is my duty as a citizen. I owe it to the rest of the population to keep them safe. And if that means I have turn my criminal child in-so be it.
Now that serves two purposes. #1 I do my part in helping keep society safe. #2 My kids know that if they do something illegal, they have ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT FROM ME. This discourages them completely.
We've allowed our emotions and opinions to enter into jurisprudence and we have to get back to being men in this nation. Men march off to war knowing that they may die-why? Because we can suspend our emotion and think and act in the face of danger.
We it comes to this case, we should do away with our emotion, judge the case based upon fact (not opinion), and punish those who have broke the law-no matter what responsibility they've been assigned.
Lastly, those who continue to speak about immigrants and call them illegal scum bags need to remember 2 things: #1 a little over 300 years ago, your ancestors were the "illegal scum bags" and #2 read this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3560433.stm
Soon enough, immigration will be necessary to maintain a workforce in most industrialized nations, especially in Europe.
2007-07-21 08:14:42 · answer #2 · answered by Black I 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Ramos was sentenced to 11 years and one day in prison for shooting and wounding Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near the Fabens settlement of unincorporated El Paso County, Texas at about 1 PM on February 17, 2005. According to Johnny Sutton, United States Attorney for the Western District of Texas, Ramos and his partner fired fifteen shots at an unarmed man in broad daylight and failed to report it to their supervisors, instead giving a false report. Fellow agent Jose Compean was sentenced to 12 years.
Sounds about right. They're criminals. No pardons needed.
2007-07-21 08:11:35 · answer #3 · answered by gunplumber_462 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
the border agents who are doing a SUPERB job stopping illegal scum bags from entering this country should be LEFT alone and the left should stop sending aclu scum bag lawyers to harass the border agents who are trying to do their job...
ALL of the soldiers, including the Colonel who wasn't even AT THE 'scene of the ALLEGED crime', should also be FREED... they were also just doing their JOBS...
DON'T yous scum bag libbys EVEN call American soldiers 'baby killers'.... YOUS HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK, yous freak baby murderers
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Black I
ONE THIRD OF THE PRISONERS IN AMERICAN JAILS ARE HERE IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAWS.....
America WAS NOT FOUNDED as a penal colony like Australia was....
The people who came here in the past ASSIMMILATED into America, learned to speak English, and became LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.... those who LEGALLY came here in the past WERE NOT SCUM BAGS... Those who are coming here ILLEGALLY NOW ARE MOSTLY DRUG TRAFFICKERS, TERRORISTS, and CRIMINALS....
If we have an 8% work force of illegal aliens, and we have a 5% unemployment rate......
THINK ABOUT IT, YOUS IMBECILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-07-21 08:10:32 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
sure they could desire to be pardoned! they could desire to have been reprimanded for no longer killing him in spite of the undeniable fact that. an analogous guy became later arrested smuggling extra drugs around the border! they could desire to have shot to kill! could have been much less place of work work!
2016-10-09 05:06:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
He hasn't yet. He continues to support on illegal hispanics. Legal ones be damned.
2007-07-21 08:06:31 · answer #6 · answered by Scott L 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
was the man they shot armed?
thanks gunplumber...sounds like Ramos & compean are getting off a little light to me...but then i'm all about truth, justice & the American way
2007-07-21 08:06:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋
Most likely not. Are they rich white Bush supporters ?
2007-07-21 08:04:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
Maybe if Mexico says it's OK.
2007-07-21 08:07:00 · answer #9 · answered by Sparky 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They should be pardoned and the scum bags that convicted them should be disbarred.
2007-07-21 08:14:16 · answer #10 · answered by NEOBillyfree 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Bush only pardons those who cover up HIS crimes.
2007-07-21 08:05:38 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋