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I am SURE that I recall reading in a newspaper only a matter of months ago, about a country, which I cannot remember which one, was sending up special mercury bombs or something into clouds to cause rain. I KNOW I did read it.
I wonder if it worked but is continuing to send it all here by accident.

I know this sounds barmy, but what else could be causing flooding like this, I can never remember such a thing!

2007-07-21 06:36:37 · 17 answers · asked by SUPER-GLITCH 6 in Science & Mathematics Weather

Huh? Dunno? I KNOW I said it sounded barmy, but two reasonable thought out answers so far ?

2007-07-21 07:39:54 · update #1

17 answers

I just so happen to get this in my email today. Apologies it is a bit long winded but it does explain a lot.

UK Agencies Deny Evidence of Widespread Illegal Aerosol Operations

RINF Alternative News
Derbyshire, UK – Following the submission of a report, backed by over 20 signatories from diverse backgrounds, detailing widespread illegal and unacknowledged aerosol spraying from aircraft, UK agencies have ignored or denied the significant data it presented. Copies of the report were sent to UK Greenpeace, the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), The Royal Air Force, DEFRA and, sometime after, to the UK World-Wide Fund for Nature, challenging them to investigate the data themselves. Four responses were received and all of them have denied the basic science presented in the report, which was backed up by the clear evidence.
(PR Leap) 5th July 2007 – An independent lay researcher, with a background in Software Engineering, from Derbyshire, UK, has continued to try and draw attention to the report he compiled which documents ongoing illegal aerosol spraying activities which could be affecting our climate, our health or both. In May 2007, a previous Press Release ( http://www.prweb.com//releases/2007/5/prweb527358.htm) described how he had sent copies of this report to several UK Agencies.
Andrew Johnson said that, "It has been an interesting exercise. Though the responses from official bodies have been largely as expected, I have been gratified and surprised by the response of a number of people from all around the world."
Since submitting the report in May 2007, Johnson said that he has received responses from DEFRA, The Department of Transport, the UK World-Wide Fund for Nature and the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). He said "The response from DEFRA was a 1-page flat denial, stating that what I was describing was ordinary contrails. They did not refer to any sections of the report, nor did they attempt to explain any of the data it presented. I had already included in the report that I would not accept such a flat denial and suggested that, if that was the sort of response they were intending to make, then they would be better sending nothing. This is another strong indication they did not even read the report." The response came from the "Customer Contact Unit" and Johnson said "I wrote back to them explaining again that a simple 'denial' type of response was not acceptable. I also wrote that I did not consider myself a 'customer' of DEFRA – after all, I hadn't bought anything from them."
Johnson said that he was surprised to receive a response from The Department of Transport, "I did not send a copy to the Department of Transport (DoT), but in their response they said that the report had been forwarded to them for comment by DEFRA Ministers. The DoT response was by far the most comprehensive, and referenced one specific section of my report, so it seemed they had actually read it. They included reference to a Scientific Paper about Persistent Aircraft Trails, written in 2005 by Professor Ulrich Schumann of the Institute of Atmospheric Physics. I studied this report in some detail and could not really find anything that was specifically relevant to the data in my own report – such as how grids and parallel lines are formed. The Schumann Paper talks about contrail formation being possibly linked to cirrus cloud formation, but states there is no proven link between them. It does indeed discuss persistent "contrails" but does not explain why they form and the duration of their persistence is not discussed in detail or with any empirical data. In particular, my attention was drawn to 2 figures in the report: the standard contrail duration of maximum 2 minutes (with which I have no argument) and also the discussion of regions of ice supersaturation. It states that ice supersaturation in the atmosphere may be the cause of persistent contrail formation, but no firm link is documented or established. Indeed, a figure of 150 km is quoted for the maximum size of a region of ice supersaturation. However, I have measured chemtrails that are over 300 km long."
Johnson explained that, after reviewing Prof Schumann's Paper, "I e-mailed a copy of my report, along with these and other comments to Professor Schumann, but so far, I have received no response."
Johnson responded to the DoT and CAA asking that, if their assertions were correct and the chemtrails were just contrails, it must mean that the picture of the "grid" he took in 2005 and the 42 aircraft he recorded leaving persistent trails over a period of 2½ hours on Feb 4th 2007 must be ordinary air traffic. He therefore asked if they could please supply flight data for these days? "As I have videoed the actual aircraft from 4th of Feb and have the files time-stamped on a disk, I can prove they flew over the place where I was. I have received no response to this request so far."
There has been interest and support expressed from around the world, Johnson has found. "During the week after I first posted the report, I received a number of complimentary messages from around the world, which was a pleasant surprise. It seems that more people are aware of and concerned about this issue than I thought".
Brian from Ontario, Canada also contacted Andrew with information regarding chemtrail identification, "I have put together this webpage http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/spreading.html for people in the USA which helps them to identify Chemtrails. One important consideration, for example is that most commercial aircraft are tracked by the FAA within the U.S. Other countries may have similar tracking programs and in turn make that tracking data available to the public via tracking programs such as 'FlightAware' and 'Flight Explorer' in near real time. If the aircraft that you have observed do not show up on these tracking programs then you must assume that they are exempt from being tracked. Only military type aircraft, and some Government aircraft are exempt from tracking. That should cause many questions to be asked as it is against FAA regulations as well as military flight regulations for any large body jet aircraft to conduct operations, manoeuvres, or training exercises over populated civilian areas without notification by the Secretary of Defence ninety days prior to any such operation - and only then with the express permission of the Governor(s) of the affected state(s), unless National Security is at issue."
Johnson said "I was grateful that Brian has contacted me with this information - I have come across a similar tracking system which is available in the UK called the SBS-1 but this is quite expensive to buy."
John from Australia said "I have been following this issue for some time and have been videoing our local skies for 3 months… I think the Greens really need to look at this but so far here it has fallen on deaf ears and the other parties deny it."
Susan from Arizona also contacted Johnson to say "I have tracked [chemtrails] here in northern Arizona for the past two years, where skies are normally a bright, clear blue (or at least they used to be) for most days of the year. The chemtrails have increased and become far worse over the past several years, along with extreme changes in local climate and environment. Respiratory problems are virtually epidemic and long-lasting."
James from Exeter said "I agree 100% with your views and conclusions. I have taken digital camera pictures of these unmarked aircraft spraying overhead, sometimes as many as thirty or more aircraft in a very short time, spraying in a grid pattern it seems, and have looked up some mornings to find an X marks the spot in the sky overhead - looks like a St. Andrews cross. I have a large pair of binoculars 80 x 20's , but even with these there are no markings on these aircraft. I have seen a couple of aircraft with what look like extra tanks under the fuselage. So, yes we are being sprayed. I'm so pleased to see someone that is voicing the concerns I've had for a while now."
John from Kelso (Scotland) also wrote to say "Chemtrails first caught my attention after reading an article in about 1998/99, and to be honest at that time in the UK I was not seeing any, so I just dismissed the idea as something that was happening in the US. In 2002, I was leaving my nephew's house in North Shields Tyne & Wear to come home and from the main road near the Tyne Tunnel and I could see in the distance a huge X in the sky. I have since taken many photos and videos of this phenomenon."
Rosalind from California wrote "We believe, that the program here in Northern California and Arizona dates back to 1988 or 1989. We believe that there may have been experiments prior to this date… however, technology and funding became available on a massive scale in the late 1980s."
Andrew Johnson added "Rosalind also kindly sent quite a few related documents that she has obtained, though I simply have not had chance to study them yet."
Caroline, a Financial Consultant, from Surrey, UK also described her own thoughts and experiences, "I do not believe that any government-sponsored scientist has or will be sanctioned to look into all the evidence relating to chemtrails with the depth that you, I and many other private individuals have. Any scientists who may feel that chemtrails should be investigated would, I think, have to consider the 80 untimely and unexplained deaths of some of the world's top scientists that have taken place since 1994. DEFRA has not and will not act impartially and has, I consider, erroneously decided to accept scientific discussion as fact rather than theory. One must wonder why there was not one time lapse experiment undertaken (or reported on if undertaken) when this economical way of confirming facts could quickly turn a theory into a proven point. I do feel that time is of the utmost importance with regards to halting these chemtrails, at least until a full and open public enquiry has taken place."
Mark, a Rail Worker in the West Midlands, has recently written an article regarding his observations about the Chemtrailing activity in which he says, "During the summer of 2006, my attention was directed to unusual cloud formations that were becoming a frequent and alarming feature of the daytime skies over the Wolverhampton area of the West Midlands, UK where I live. On a sunny Saturday afternoon in July 2006, I actually witnessed the entire vista was filled with criss-crossed and checkerboard patterns constructed of thick, milky white lines of cloud. I have been an aviation enthusiast for as long as I can remember, and maintain what I consider to be a good working familiarity with most types of civilian and military aircraft. The aircraft I saw appeared to be of three types, two larger types of the KC-135 (a derivative of the Boeing 707) and Boeing KC 767 (the military tanker version of the Boeing 767) varieties, and a smaller and faster type which recalled the configuration of a McDonnell Douglas MD-80. These aircraft were all flying at high speed, and initially deposited thin, white trails in their wakes. It was also patently obvious that the patterns visible above were being constructed to some kind of design."
It is therefore clear that a wide range of people are aware that the spraying is going on, and basic science proves it is really happening. The question has to be asked, then, how do we proceed and obtain answers to has authorised this spraying and what is its purpose?
In summary, Johnson comments, "I see this as a stage in the process of getting both Governmental Organisations and Non-Governmental Organisations to look at this issue realistically and responsibly. The research of many people and the report I compiled proves the issue is real, even though we don't know who is responsible for the spraying. Anyone who has an interest in protecting our environment should be looking at this issue and asking questions. The official responses I have received so far have done nothing, realistically, to refute or correct any of the data or overall conclusions I included, disturbing though they are. Perhaps the main problem is that it is difficult for us all to accept, in the face of everything else we are told (about things like global warming, for example), that something like this is really going on. I think we must therefore continually apply pressure in various places so that we can get more answers. I strongly encourage everyone to try and do something to increase awareness of this. Write to government and environmental agencies (especially if you are a member) and send them copies of the report, or any other data on Chemtrailing which you feel is important."
Most of the responses that Andrew Johnson has received, both official and unofficial, can be viewed online here:
http://www.checktheevidence.com/Chemtrails/OfficialResponses/ or using this shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/yugavz
The original report submitted can be viewed, online at http://www.checktheevidence.com/Chemtrails/ or using this shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/2w8ytk/
Johnson actively encourages all interested parties to contact him for any required clarification or further information required.

2007-07-21 10:18:16 · answer #1 · answered by lollipoppett2005 6 · 2 1

You must be in the rain soaked UK, hope you've not been affected by all the flooding.

What you're saying doesn't sound barmy and there have been several experiments conducted to try to make it rain. The British tried doing this as far back as the Second World War, the Soviets experimented with this idea extensively back in the days of the old Soviet Union.

It's usually silver iodide that is used (not heard about mercury being used), the idea being that the tiny particles of chemical form a nucleus around which droplets of water form and subsequently fall as rain. It's known as cloud seeding.

The experiments met with limited success, it was shown to be possible to increase the chance of rain but it was very unreliable when it came to making it rain in a specific place or at a specific time (too many other factors that couldn't be controlled - temperature, wind, humidity etc).

One important point, these experiments don't create rain they just attempt to make the rain that would fall anyway fall in a different place or at a different time. Rain is the consequence of evaopuration from the seas and oceans, to make more rain would mean increasing the amount of water that was evapourated and to do that would mean warming the oceans, more sunlight or warming the atmosphere.

Also, water vapour in the atmosphere has a very short cycle - it's only up there for an average of four days before it returns to Earth as rain. If there were experiments conducted several months ago the effects would have worn off a long time ago.

The prevailing wind across the UK is coming from the southwest, those experiments would have to have been conducted somewhere over the Atlantic if they were to increase the potential rainfall in the UK.

What we're seeing is a natural but adverse weather event. As the world warms up the frequency of these events is increasing, not just in the UK but around the world.

Look on the bright side - there's unlikely to be any water restrictions this year.

2007-07-21 08:23:52 · answer #2 · answered by Trevor 7 · 0 0

You may be right - in Superman 3 they rig a satellite to actually 'produce' weather in other countries. Who knows what we can do now with the technology we have.

The more logical explanation is that Nature is redressing a balance. Nature has to send all types of weather. In the 12 months up until October last year, the UK was very dry with rainfall well below average. In the winter months we went about 4 weeks without any rain.

Now all that rain in falling, and replenishing the water tables.

2007-07-22 02:08:37 · answer #3 · answered by The Global Geezer 7 · 0 0

No the flooding is being caused by something much simpler. Let me explain this to you. Right firstly in the ground we have what scientists call a water table. This is basically a naturally occuring storage capacity. What this means is that when it rains water runs down into this table and is stored in an underground reservoir if you like. As the rainwater continues to fall so the water table rises until it can take no more. Then we get the flooding as we have seen in recent days.

2007-07-21 09:25:58 · answer #4 · answered by SOAP WATCHER 2 · 0 1

Its down to global warming, and the country using 'bombs' to make it rain is Japan, they do this because they are low on water, they also propose to use this technique at the Olympic games to ensure dry weather for the events, which will not be good news for distance events as Paula radcliffe will testify

2007-07-21 06:48:03 · answer #5 · answered by stukaville 2 · 1 0

I recently read that the pagans are protesting over the Simpson painting in a field next to their sacred feature. They said they`d send rain to wash it away. So I think the pagans are to blame unless it`s just a coincidence!

2007-07-21 20:06:11 · answer #6 · answered by Rose D 2 · 0 1

Nature

2007-07-21 06:42:20 · answer #7 · answered by Bludnut 3 · 0 2

I think is mother nature and number 1 being God.

2007-07-21 15:51:26 · answer #8 · answered by dcrc93 7 · 0 1

It's raining so much because angels are becoming emo

2007-07-21 12:17:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Could it be the El Nino, La Nina thing? Hmmm...

2007-07-21 06:45:30 · answer #10 · answered by tatertown_94 3 · 0 2

Who knows? Anything is possible in these days of technology.

2007-07-21 06:49:42 · answer #11 · answered by Afi 7 · 1 1

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