Who is the greatest Probaseball player NOT in the Hall of fame today?

Question

please give a reason why you think that player is the best also

this person can be "banned" for betting on baseball or other things

Answer 1

I'd have to choose Joe Jackson for several reasons.

First, he "retired" with a .356 batting average, which is still the third best of all time. He also ranked several times in the top ten in both homers and slugging percentage. The only reason his home run look low is that he played during the deadball era, when nobody hit homers. Jackson was also a smooth and outstanding outfielder.

I know many will make the case for Pete Rose, but I think Jackson was the better player. Rose had longevity, but his career average was 50 points lower, and his slugging over 100 points lower than Jackson.

Answer 2

First of all, Pete Rose was not a great baseball player. I wouldn't put him in the top 50. He was very good for a very long time. He didn't take walks, so his average was okay, but his OBP kind of sucked.

I think that Ron Santo belongs in the Hall, and I question the knowledge of anyone who didn't vote for him. Also, Ted Simmons was a great catcher whose career coincided with Johnny Bench, so he didn't get much publicity.

In the future, the best player not in the Hall will be TimRaines. He was arguably the second or third best player in the NL for 1983-1987, and he won't get anywhere near the Hall.

Answer 3

Pete Rose, I mean he should be in the HOF as a PLAYER.

I mean how can the guy who has the record for most amount of hits not be in the HOF?

Also I think Shoeless Joe Jackson was another good player who should have went to the hall of fame but he bet in the 1919 Black Sox Scandal.

Answer 4

Some would and some wouldn't. Guys like Ted Williams and Lou Gehrig would be great in any era. Whether Ruth would have hit 714 home runs is a question that will never be answered. You have to remember, ball parks in those days were much better in terms of the outfield fences. The hit home runs in the power alleys in the old Yankee Stadium a batter would have to reach the fences at 457 feet in left center and 461 in right center. In today's ball parks, no fences come anywhere near those numbers. At any rate, it a good question because this is what baseball is all about.

Answer 5

Look people who did allot worse then Pete Rose or Joe Jackson are in the Hall of Fame. Example:Cap Anson was instrumental in preventing African Americans from playing MLB. This was the case until 1947.

Rich "Goose" Gossage - He led his league three times saves and 20 or more of them ten times. Gossage was picked 9 times for the All Star Game. In 1984 he was instumental in getting San Diego to the World Series 10 Wins, 25 Saves. As a Yankee over 6 seasons only once did his ERA ever clear 2.27 , and that was 1979 2.62.

If Bruce Sutter and Fingers can make the Hall as relievers , so shoud the "Goose". He was every bit as dominate and a premier closer of his time. 1977 pitched a career-high 72 games 11-9, 26 saves, 1.62 ERA in 133 innings.

Answer 6

People can choose Shoeless Joe or Pete Rose, but those guys have screwed themselves out of HoF entry and should be kept out for good.
I say Thurman Munson. He held the Yankees together during that whole "Bronx Zoo" era, and was the first Yankee to be selected captain since Lou Gehrig died--look at all the guys who could have been selected in that time (i.e. DiMaggio, Mantle). His was a greatness that went beyond numbers, though his numbers were solid. He was a true leader, and should be celebrated as such, as a member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. . . .

Answer 7

Bert Blyleven, Joe Jackson, and Ron Santo.

Their careers speak for themselves.

If Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa make the Hall and not these three guys. Baseball is just another scam. There are no hallowed halls.

Answer 8

2 Players

Shoeless Joe Jackson, one of the most feared batters and one of the greatest fielders from the early days of baseball.

Pete Rose, a great hitter, a great leader, what he lacked defensively he made up with hustle like no other man on the ball field. He seemed possessed.

Answer 9

shoeless joe and buck o'neil.
shoeless joe is never going in hall of fame for betting & for some stuipd reasons they didn't vote the last living ***** league great and the frist black manager in mlb to hof. His qoute during during 2006 hof was great thumb to nose to seneless sportwrites that vote for players "God's been good to me. They didn't think Buck was good enough to be in the Hall of Fame. That's the way they thought about it and that's the way it is, so we're going to live with that. Now, if I'm a Hall of Famer for you, that's all right with me. Just keep loving old Buck. Don't weep for Buck. No, man, be happy, be thankful"
RIP Buck

If you ever in KC visit the nergo league museum it awesome

Answer 10

Not player but best ambassador. The late great Buck O' Neil. He kept the tradition of the Negroes leagues alive and never held a grudge against anyone.